DOS ain't dead

Stefan Weber has released version 2.30.6882 of NDN on 08 September 2007.

Website: http://ndn.muxe.com/beta/
Changes: http://forums.muxe.com/index.php?showtopic=3165

> Stefan Weber has released version 2.30.6882 of NDN on 08 September 2007.
>
>
> Website: http://ndn.muxe.com/beta/
> Changes: http://forums.muxe.com/index.php?showtopic=3165

I s there also linux version? I'm going to check it. BTW how about DN-OSP? any new version for a long time (i use 6.4.0)

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DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access.

> Is there also linux version? I'm going to check it.

Yes, there's a Linux version, but it's not quite as full or stable as the others.

> BTW how about DN-OSP? any new version for a long time (i use 6.4.0)

(quoting from here):

> The development of the project DN OSP based on Borland
> Pascal has been stopped on the version 6.4.0, only some
> critical renovations will be applied to this version.
>
> All the forces of the development contractors were
> focused on DN/2 v.2.

NDN is much much better, IMO, and obviously still updated.

EDIT: For a lightweight, GPL'd file manager, try DosZip (LFN support, built-in UNZIP).

> EDIT: For a lightweight, GPL'd file manager, try
> DosZip (LFN support,
> built-in UNZIP).

Yeah and ultralightweight Mikro Manazer - 12 kB beats everything :)

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DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access.

> Yeah and ultralightweight Mikro
> Manazer - 12 kB beats everything :)

But I don't see any source code.

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Forum admin

> But I don't see any source code.

And what?

You can try author it you need this...

Anyway some guys helping me with ROMOS did complette disassembling of MM and translation to english :)

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DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access.

I just tried dos version NDN and it have some strange display in drive select panel. Win32 is OK (it displays that's a FAT FS)

+-[1] L: +------------------------------------------------------------ 21:24:00
¦    Nam ¦ A: Can only copy between disk and ARVID (or inside AVT)... ¦ ¦Time  ¦
¦..      ¦ C: Appended an AVCOMSTR command file:
 FAT               ¦ ¦23:36 ¦
¦COLORS  ¦ D: Appended an AVCOMSTR command file:
 FAT               ¦ ¦18:44 ¦
¦DOC     ¦ E: Appended an AVCOMSTR command file:
 FAT               ¦ ¦02:04 ¦
¦ICO     ¦ F: Appended an AVCOMSTR command file:
 FAT               ¦ ¦02:51 ¦
¦SSAVERS ¦ G: Appended an AVCOMSTR command file:
 FAT               ¦ ¦23:02 ¦
¦XLT     ¦ H: Appended an AVCOMSTR command file:
 FAT               ¦ ¦21:48 ¦
¦archive ¦ I: Appended an AVCOMSTR command file:
 FAT               ¦ ¦23:41 ¦
¦english ¦ J: Appended an AVCOMSTR command file:
 FAT               ¦ ¦23:05 ¦
¦english ¦ K: Appended an AVCOMSTR command file:
 FAT               ¦ ¦23:31 ¦
¦english ¦ L: Appended an AVCOMSTR command file:
 FAT               ¦ ¦00:14 ¦
¦ftp     ¦ M: Appended an AVCOMSTR command file:
 FAT               ¦ ¦03:34 ¦
¦hgroups ¦ N: Appended an AVCOMSTR command file:
 FAT               ¦ ¦02:46 ¦
¦ndn     ¦ O: Packet File:                                            ¦ ¦02:40 ¦
¦ndn     ¦ P: Packet File:                                            ¦ ¦01:59 ¦
¦ndn     ¦ Q: present                                                 ¦ ¦23:35 ¦
¦ndn     ¦ R: present                                                 ¦ ¦      ¦
¦------- ¦ S: present                                                 ¦ 32/14 -¦
¦ed to d ¦ T: Packet File:                                            ¦ 7 23:36¦
¦        ¦ U: Packet File:                                            ¦        ¦
¦    2,6 ¦ V: Packet File:                                            ¦  E:    ¦
+[ACDEFG ¦ W: Packet File:                                            ¦ -------+
L:\!MYCD +--  -------------------------------------------------------+

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DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access.

> Anyway some guys helping me with ROMOS did complette disassembling of MM
> and translation to english :)

Nice, but I like clear licenses.

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> Nice, but I like clear licenses.

Me too.

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This is a LOGITECH mouse driver, but some software expect here
the following string:*** This is Copyright 1983 Microsoft ***

RayeR wrote:

> BTW how about DN-OSP?

I prefer the 32-bit NDN (and YES, I know what the answer from rr will be ).

> Yeah and ultralightweight Mikro Manazer - 12 kB beats everything

YES, but I don't see any source nor an English version

> You can try author it you need this...

I already did ... he neglects his authorship ... is it equivalent to a release into PD ? Go figure

> Anyway some guys helping me with ROMOS did complette disassembling of MM and translation to english :)

Download ?

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This is a LOGITECH mouse driver, but some software expect here
the following string:*** This is Copyright 1983 Microsoft ***

> Download ?

It's inside ROMOS package on virtual romdisk image.

Download http://rayer.ic.cz/romos/romos.zip
unzip, unpack ROMD64KB.IMG and you'l find mm.com english there

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DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access.

Hey, look how the disk selection is messed up. It happenes under win9x and in MSDOS 7.1



I tried older beta 4000 and it's OK:

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DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access.

> Hey, look how the disk selection is messed up. It happenes under win9x and
> in MSDOS 7.1
>
> I tried older beta 4000 and it's OK:

Report it as a bug (e-mail Stefan or go to the forum).

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Know your limits.h

> Report it as a bug (e-mail Stefan or go to the
> forum).

Done. It took a day when my acconut was activated and I can post it.

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DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access.

> > Report it as a bug
> Done. It took a day when my acconut was activated and I can post it.



Bug occurs in DOS also. Further, the mouse doesn't work and there seems to be some more bugginess, all new in this version compared to 4000

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This is a LOGITECH mouse driver, but some software expect here
the following string:*** This is Copyright 1983 Microsoft ***

> > > Report it as a bug
> > Done. It took a day when my acconut was activated and I can post it.
>
> Bug occurs in DOS also. Further, the mouse doesn't work and there seems to
> be some more bugginess, all new in this version compared to 4000

Please consider reporting all of these to Stefan.

> Bug occurs in DOS also. Further, the mouse doesn't work and there seems to
> be some more bugginess, all new in this version compared to 4000

Uh, I didn't found that mouse doesn't work coz I normally used to control DN only from KB :) And see you have also corrupted <*ile name>, me not...

BTW about linux version - is possible to change assigment of disknames to mount points?

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DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access.

> Bug occurs in DOS also. Further, the mouse doesn't work and there seems to
> be some more bugginess, all new in this version compared to 4000

It seems to be solved http://forums.muxe.com/index.php?showtopic=3167&st=0&gopid=14865&#entry14865

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DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access.

> Uh, I didn't found that mouse doesn't work coz I normally used to control
> DN only from KB :) And see you have also corrupted <*ile name>, me not...

Sorry, I haven't really tested the new release yet, only downloaded/installed it.

> BTW about linux version - is possible to change assigment of disknames to
> mount points?

Dunno, I've only used the Linux version like once or twice. I'm more interested in DOS (such an obvious answer: sorry, wish I knew!)

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Know your limits.h

> > But I don't see any source code.
>
> And what?
>
> You can try author it you need this...
>
> Anyway some guys helping me with ROMOS did complette disassembling of MM
> and translation to english :)

I tried decompress it with iup067 and disassembling with sourcer 7.01 but it seems not giving good result.

any chance to have asm file of mm?

> > Download ?
>
> It's inside ROMOS package on virtual romdisk image.
>
> Download
> http://rayer.ic.cz/romos/romos.zip
> unzip, unpack ROMD64KB.IMG and you'l find mm.com english there

I can only fix some of Sourcer output(to make generated code size matching original code size, but I still can't changing code size) and fix little styles(date and thousand separators) and translations(Retry/Abort). The total size bug is not fixed.

http://roy.orz.hm/gpc/files1.rt/MM.7z (Sourcer output included)