DosWorld
24.02.2022, 05:37 |
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Expecting another portion of concern from EU leaders. --- Make DOS great again!
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glennmcc
North Jackson, Ohio (USA), 24.02.2022, 05:46
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> Expecting another portion of concern from EU leaders.
The little details change.
(names & faces, specific events)
The 'big picture' is exactly the same today as it was over 2400 years ago.
"Children today are tyrants.
They contradict their parents,
gobble their food,
and tyrannize their teachers."
--
Socrates
Greek philosopher in Athens (469 BC - 399 BC) --- --
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DosWorld
24.02.2022, 06:01 (edited by DosWorld, 24.02.2022, 06:11)
@ glennmcc
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> > Expecting another portion of concern from EU leaders.
> The little details change.
Exploded 7 rockets (in ~5km to me), imho, not so small change. I hope, this time, it will be end for russsia. --- Make DOS great again!
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mceric
Germany, 24.02.2022, 10:29
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> Exploded 7 rockets (in ~5km to me), imho, not so small change. I hope, this
> time, it will be end for russsia.
Their argument is that they have to "defend" those who want the area to become part of Russia, while others want it to stay part of Ukraine.
I guess quite a few just want the area to not be subject of any figh ts, but would not participate in figh ting for it to be part of either country?
Either way, why would that be the end for Russia? They are what is left over from a large group of states and they want that to gr ow, while the NATO wants their group to gr ow, in spite of having promised to leave a buffer zone.
So my impression is that third parties figh t about what happens with Ukraine, rather than leaving them peacefully in the middle? I wonder what po lls in various areas of Ukraine itself would say, if there were po lls?
I hope you will manage to stay unharmed!
PS: Extra spaces are word filter related. --- FreeDOS / DOSEMU2 / ... |
tom
Germany (West), 24.02.2022, 11:28
@ mceric
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> So my impression is that third parties figh t about what happens with
> Ukraine, rather than leaving them peacefully in the middle? I wonder what
> po lls in various areas of Ukraine itself would say, if there were po lls?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/08/when-it-comes-ukraine-what-do-ordinary-russians-actually-want/ |
DosWorld
24.02.2022, 14:45 (edited by DosWorld, 24.02.2022, 15:14)
@ mceric
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> who want the area to become part of Russia
This is lie. IRL: "we are occupy part of another country, and want join to our sponsor". (in other case, you must agree - this territory have unlimited human resources. 90% people who can work - escape in first years. They dont start immediately fight with russians and lost houses - this is price of doubt)
> why would that be the end for Russia?
Some time does not matter how many guns enemies have. They spend last resources (political, economical) - it will be collapse of Russia. Ideological bankruptcy of the state model
For me, this war+collapse must hide most big theft/criminals in history. "When they talk about patriotism, immediately check for what they stole.". It hard to believe, but government can have 100% criminal model.
> I hope you will manage to stay unharmed!
Life is permanently expanding my vision of borders of madness and stupidity. I fear more for my brain than for my body. --- Make DOS great again!
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DosWorld
24.02.2022, 16:33 (edited by DosWorld, 24.02.2022, 16:48)
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Russians into Tchernobyl zone, nuclear-storage guards is fight.
(if radioactive dust storage will be damaged, everyone will join in the fun)
https://korrespondent-net.translate.goog/ukraine/4...;_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp --- Make DOS great again!
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DosWorld
24.02.2022, 18:45
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We lost control in Tchernobyl. Here is no sense to try escape. --- Make DOS great again!
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RayeR
CZ, 03.03.2022, 02:26
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Power plants |
> "Putin go home..."
But I would suggest Germany to start up again nucelar power plants and fuck green deal instead of relying on russian gas and draining cheap supplies from CZ and PL power plants :\ --- DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access. |
RayeR
CZ, 03.03.2022, 02:49 (edited by RayeR, 03.03.2022, 03:08)
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Hi, are you from Ukraine? What city?
I was traveling across UA 2 times ~3 yars ago, remebering Lvov, Kyjev, Pervomajsk, Chernobyl (that was the primary target of the trip)...
Today I read that russians are trying to get another nuclear power plant under control: https://www.ceskenoviny.cz/zpravy/unian-ruskou-kol...-jaderne-elektrarny-zastavili-civiliste/2170762
I wish all good to your brave people who are defending own country. We, Czech people, have similar historical bad experience from 1938 - nazi Germany and 1968 - Russia and allied armies of Warszava pact so I can imagine how do you feel, lost in the dark... but we are with you, trying to help over 700k people who emigrated in recent days. I like your president, I think he's giving a good moral support for your people. A raised flag for you http://rayer.g6.cz/1tmp/the_flag.jpg --- DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access. |
DosWorld
03.03.2022, 05:24 (edited by DosWorld, 03.03.2022, 06:35)
@ RayeR
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> Hi, are you from Ukraine? What city?
Jsem z Kyjeva.
> I wish all good to your brave people who are defending own country. We,
> Czech people, have similar historical bad experience from 1938 - nazi
> Germany and 1968 - Russia and allied armies of Warszava pact so I can
When i live in Praha, i watch few films about 1968 (we have no info about it, imho this films must be translated for everybody). Few scene cant forget.
Imho looks like similar scenario. (Starts from capture airport near to Kladno -> airports Gostomel/Vasylkyv etc).
> I like your president,
Yes. Everybody like him - today he have 99.9999% support.
Clown by profession (in fact) is better leader then other professional politic %)
and may be best president in Ukraine for all time (or first normal president?).
> A raised flag for
> you http://rayer.g6.cz/1tmp/the_flag.jpg
)) THANKS !!
PS: Many ukrainians use russian language as native, but nobody support russian. Please be patient.
PPS: I hope some cultural differences of migrants dont very disturb sweet CR. --- Make DOS great again!
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mceric
Germany, 03.03.2022, 08:48
@ RayeR
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Power plants |
> But I would suggest Germany to start up again nucelar power plants and fuck
> green deal instead of relying on russian gas and draining cheap supplies
> from CZ and PL power plants :\
Not sure what this has to do with the website certificate, but nuclear power is a lot more expensive than renewables and we already are too far with preparations to shut down the last nuclear plants.
For example you would first have to get new fuel for them, from places such as Kasachstan or Russia or from other continents:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uran/Tabellen_und_Grafiken#Nach_L%C3%A4ndern --- FreeDOS / DOSEMU2 / ... |
rr
Berlin, Germany, 03.03.2022, 13:40
@ mceric
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Power plants |
> > But I would suggest Germany to start up again nucelar power plants and
> fuck
> > green deal instead of relying on russian gas and draining cheap supplies
> > from CZ and PL power plants :\
>
> Not sure what this has to do with the website certificate, but nuclear
> power is a lot more expensive than renewables and we already are too far
> with preparations to shut down the last nuclear plants.
I moved RayeR's and your message to the other topic. --- Forum admin |
DosWorld
04.03.2022, 01:43 (edited by DosWorld, 04.03.2022, 03:38)
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The world is changing. [OT] |
> We lost control in Tchernobyl. Here is no sense to try escape.
Fire on nuc power plant in Zaporizhia, rocket hit the power unit.
Nuclear exploding - no (thanks, god!).
https://www-pravda-com-ua.translate.goog/rus/news/...;_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Update: The situation is changing. The news is disturbing
https://www-pravda-com-ua.translate.goog/rus/news/...;_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp
https://www-pravda-com-ua.translate.goog/rus/news/...;_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp
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PS: Thanks!!
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RayeR
CZ, 04.03.2022, 02:56
@ mceric
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Power plants |
> Not sure what this has to do with the website certificate, but nuclear
Sorry for posting to wrong thread.
> power is a lot more expensive than renewables and we already are too far
> with preparations to shut down the last nuclear plants.
But you cannot rely just only on renewables. In the autumn and winter, when the sun is almost behind the clouds and wind may stop blow... you just have to kick in gas power planst or buy ele. from your east neighbours. For the supply and grid stability it's needed to have stable sources like nuclear and coal power plants. The price is relative, we are planning to build further reactor blocks of Dukovany and Temelin power plants but it may take 20 or more years. Who knows what price of ele. will be? Nobody guessed it will grow rocket high in recent year... --- DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access. |
RayeR
CZ, 04.03.2022, 03:35
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> Jsem z Kyjeva.
Nice city, and very large compared to Prague...
We was accommodated in hotel Kozatskiy on Maidan but I had only one night to explore the city, took some photos...
I read Kyjev is still defending but there's moving a huge 64km russian convoy so it would get worse...
> When i live in Praha,
Did you study or work here?
> i watch few films about 1968 (we have no info about
> it, imho this films must be translated for everybody). Few scene cant
> forget.
> Imho looks like similar scenario. (Starts from capture airport near to
> Kladno -> airports Gostomel/Vasylkyv etc).
Also it's similar the young russian soldiers - I saw some captives, just 18-year boys who doesn't know where and why they are, they just follow the commands. Same as here - they didn't know anything about Czechoslovakia and they though that evil west are attacking us and they come to "protect" and defense communist regime... and then some of them keep ocupying our country for next 20 years until SSSR has fallen.
> Yes. Everybody like him - today he have 99.9999% support.
> Clown by profession (in fact) is better leader then other professional
> politic %)
> and may be best president in Ukraine for all time (or first normal
> president?).
Tomorrow there should be some direct video talk of your president to CZ on Vaclav's square at 18h, expected to be there some 10k+ people.
https://www.seznamzpravy.cz/clanek/domaci-zivot-v-...ra-na-dalku-pozdravi-prezident-zelenskyj-191714
> PS: Many ukrainians use russian language as native, but nobody support
> russian. Please be patient.
> PPS: I hope some cultural differences of migrants dont very disturb sweet
> CR.
There are living and working ~200k ukraines here in CZ so we are familiar with. Over 700k migrated from Ukraine in recent days, mostly into Poland. Also some men are moving back from CZ to Ukraine to help you. --- DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access. |
mceric
Germany, 04.03.2022, 09:42
@ RayeR
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> But you cannot rely just only on renewables. In the autumn and winter, when
> the sun is almost behind the clouds and wind may stop blow... you just have
> to kick in gas power planst or buy ele. from your east neighbours.
That is what our energy lobby also likes to say, but it reminds me of a simulation by energy experts several years ago in context of slowly shutting down coal plants. They found out that even in a year with worst case weather, they could have immediately shut down 6 GW of coal plants and simply use more gas in the few moments where there was neither enough wind nor enough sun. And by now, we do have shutdown some more coal and nuclear plants and built some more renewable ones.
Regarding grid stability, we already had claims that the sudden change in sunlight during one of the eclipses in this century would cause a horrible blackout because of all the supply fluctuations. But instead, they just needed a few more experts to be present in the control rooms to press a few more buttons than usual.
So I am not overly worried about this. However, we do have a lot of fossil fuels in heating and for warm water and we certainly cannot just tell everybody to switch to electric fan heaters and water cookers for their houses and showers.
As you already say, it would take many years to build more nuclear plants. By that time, for the same price, you can build a pile of renewable plants and even energy storage facilities. This is all not very surprising, but alas our fossil industry has, in the last decades, been able to convince politics to slow down the change.
Also, nuclear is not economically viable. The UK had to promise to pay twice the market value for electricity to make sure a new block in one of their nuclear plants got built. And right now, home owners in Germany who sell their solar energy would be paid more if they were able to trade on the free energy market than when using the government "supported" prices which were originally meant to bridge the gap between the cost for creating renewable versus fossil energies years ago when solar and wind were expensive and coal and gas were cheap.
In that context, you probably have heard that Germany has an agreement to pay companies to stop producing coal energy by 2038. I think that by that time, they would have stopped anyway, because they would not longer be able to compete. So it is ironic that we even pay them to stop "early" while they would have stopped earlier by themselves.
PS about people fighting in wars:
> they though that evil west are attacking us
Tricking people into thinking that they are fighting in a "good" war is probably a widespread problem, but it depresses me that humans love to form a mob to fight against "strangers" even without that. The we versus others hate is a part of human nature. Apparently russia also sent chechens, to get around the feeling that brothers have to fight against brothers, hoping that chechens and ukrainians feel more like strangers for each other? --- FreeDOS / DOSEMU2 / ... |
glennmcc
North Jackson, Ohio (USA), 04.03.2022, 22:23
@ mceric
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Power plants |
>> The we versus others hate is a part of human nature.
I disagree.
Hate in all of it's forms is 'learned behavior'.
https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=VPf6ITsjsgk
"You've Got To Be Carefully Taught" - SOUTH PACIFIC (1958)
https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_edito...ape_12_desktop/vikings/pdasmimvldobjmhpzfqx.jpg --- --
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RayeR
CZ, 05.03.2022, 04:13
@ mceric
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Power plants |
>Regarding grid stability, we already had claims that the sudden change in
>sunlight during one of the eclipses in this century would cause a horrible
>blackout because of all the supply fluctuations. But instead, they just
>needed a few more experts to be present in the control rooms to press a few
>more buttons than usual.
Yeah, just press a few more buttons...
But it was possible because the grid is common for whole Europe and you could
drain peaks from other countries who had strong and stable production. Our
experts says that risk of several blackouts in Europe significatnly increased in
recent years because of increase share of unstable renewables against other
stable supplies. Our grid operator CEPS is monitoring the inflows and outflows
across our borders. We often see that there are huge flows from north to south
Germany across CZ HV grid. To protect our HV grid from overload CEPS had to
install special regulation HV transformers at borders to be able to regulate
foreign flows. And CEPS is also building new HV lines to make it more robust.
The eneregy market is not free, it is heavily distorted by emission permissions and other dotations that intentionally handicap coal plants over others not because they couldn't compete.
I'm also very disturbed about various enforcements comming from EU
that dictate us when we must stop our coal plants regardless how much they are
old/modern, etc. and that this conditions are changing during the game. E.g.
our most modern coal plant Ledvice was heavily reconstructed in 2017 to reach
very high efficiency and low emissions. It cost a lot of m0ney [why is a m0ney a forbidden word here?] and the operator CEZ expected some pay-off period. I think it was planned to operate at minimum
until 2050 but it will be forced shutdown much sooner. And instead of it we
have to build gas power plants and pay for gas to Russia or USA. And what would
we do when a few years later also the gas will become a "bad guy" and we will
be enforced to shutdown newly built gas power plants?
But now the game can change again...
I don't say that nuclear power planst are the best and only one to have
(BTW France has greater share of nucelars than us and they probably think it's OK)
but we just have nothing better and such stable. The fussion is still not coming
for tens of years. I think nobody can estimate now what prices of electricity,
plants and fuel in next 20 years. I would like that every county could choose
own way and take its responsibility for it instead forcing others what is good
for all. --- DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access. |
RayeR
CZ, 05.03.2022, 04:39
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It seems that power plant is safe and reactors are untouched. Russians keeps the operator crew to do their work. I hope they are not so mad to intentionally damage reactors, they just want to take control over it to blackout big cities to demoralize you...
This evening your president speaking via TV on Vaclav Sqaure to us (~1/2 - 3/4 full)
http://rayer.g6.cz/1tmp/vsq_zele.jpg --- DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access. |
mceric
Germany, 05.03.2022, 12:49
@ RayeR
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Power plants |
> We often see that there are huge flows from north to south Germany across CZ HV grid. To protect our HV grid from overload CEPS had to install special regulation HV transformers at borders...
That is indeed a policy problem, because the large HV power lines are traditionally owned by the same type of people who own the large fossil fuel power plants. So they are not motivated to pay for the upgrade of the high voltage grid and help other players including small, decentralized renewable energy collectors, to distribute their energy across Germany.
It may have gotten a bit "better" since we ended up to have the larger renewable energy plants being built and run by the SAME players after failing to support that upcoming economic sector with the original young companies: Years ago, politicians preferred the solar panels, converters and wind energy systems to be built as cheap as possible in any other country. As far as I remember, we have lost more jobs in the renewables compared to the peak years ago than there are left in the whole fossil energy.
So a power grid is probably one of the things which should be run by state owned and not by oligarchy owned companies. --- FreeDOS / DOSEMU2 / ... |
mceric
Germany, 06.03.2022, 13:47
@ mceric
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Power plants |
Some interesting data:
https://energy-charts.info/charts/import_export/ch...m?l=de&c=DE&interval=month&month=02
Germany is exporting far more electricity than it is importing. If you continue to March, that still is the case, in spite of a possible hack disturbing 11 GW in wind power plants:
https://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/energie/e...-fast-6000-betroffene-windanlagen/28114360.html
The effect on the amount of available wind energy is very visible:
https://energy-charts.info/charts/power/chart.htm?...tacking=stacked_absolute_area&interval=year --- FreeDOS / DOSEMU2 / ... |
DosWorld
10.03.2022, 03:20
@ RayeR
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> > When i live in Praha,
> Did you study or work here?
Work. "External IT consultant".
> 18-year boys who doesn't know where and why they are
They life cost is 0.00 (as everybody, in ussr/russian empire).
I hope, this madness stop fast. But this is just a hope. --- Make DOS great again!
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Japheth
Germany (South), 15.03.2022, 11:34
@ RayeR
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Power plants |
> I don't say that nuclear power planst are the best and only one to have
> but we just have nothing better and such stable.
You are perfectly right, but it's a hopeless case talking to people that are blinded by ideology. And in the German case, it's even worse, it's not just stupidity, it's stupidity coupled with arrogance and smart-alec ( which, according to good old Dostoevsky, is a "terrible power" ). --- MS-DOS forever! |
mceric
Germany, 15.03.2022, 20:54
@ Japheth
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Power plants |
> You are perfectly right, but it's a hopeless case talking to people that
> are blinded by ideology. And in the German case, it's even worse...
Well there is news about a new nuclear power plant in Finland: It started producing electricity this year and the bill was 11 000 000 000 Euro while original plan was to finish it in 2010 for 3 000 000 000 Euro.
Imagine all the gigawatts the Finns could have installed for that price without having to wait an extra 12 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olkiluoto_Nuclear_Power_Plant
Or think about Hinkley Point C, which only got built at all because the UK government promised to pay far more than the market price for any electricity sold by them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station
"the expected operational start date is June 2026 with a build cost of £22–23 billion"
People really have to be blinded by ideology to still build those things. Probably the same people who still buy CRT monitors because of the more warm and fuzzy image quality --- FreeDOS / DOSEMU2 / ... |
Japheth
Germany (South), 15.03.2022, 21:11
@ mceric
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I can only hope, mceric, that you aren't German -otherwise: Q.E.D. --- MS-DOS forever! |
glennmcc
North Jackson, Ohio (USA), 15.03.2022, 23:03
@ mceric
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Power plants |
> > You are perfectly right, but it's a hopeless case talking to people that
> > are blinded by ideology. And in the German case, it's even worse...
>
> Well there is news about a new nuclear power plant in Finland: It started
> producing electricity this year and the bill was 11 000 000 000 Euro while
> original plan was to finish it in 2010 for 3 000 000 000 Euro.
>
> Imagine all the gigawatts the Finns could have installed for that price
> without having to wait an extra 12 years.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olkiluoto_Nuclear_Power_Plant
>
> Or think about Hinkley Point C, which only got built at all because the UK
> government promised to pay far more than the market price for any
> electricity sold by them:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station
>
> "the expected operational start date is June 2026 with a build cost of
> £22–23 billion"
>
> People really have to be blinded by ideology to still build those things.
> Probably the same people who still buy CRT monitors because of the more
> warm and fuzzy image quality
Took an extra 12yrs to complete and cost jumped from 3B to 11B ???
Hmmm.... sounds just like a US government project. --- --
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rr
Berlin, Germany, 16.03.2022, 09:32
@ glennmcc
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Power plants |
> Took an extra 12yrs to complete and cost jumped from 3B to 11B ???
>
> Hmmm.... sounds just like a US government project.
Or Berlin airport 'Willy Brandt'.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Brandenburg_Airport
The airport was originally planned to open in October 2011, five years after starting construction in 2006. However, the project encountered a series of successive delays due to poor construction planning, execution, management, and corruption. Berlin Brandenburg Airport finally received its operational licence in May 2020, and opened for commercial traffic on 31 October 2020, 14 years after construction started and 29 years after official planning was begun.
By 2009 the construction cost was budgeted at €2.83 billion. ... The airport was scheduled to open in 2020 with a total cost exceeding €7 billion.
Also see this paragraph: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Brandenburg_Airport#Financing --- Forum admin |
RayeR
CZ, 16.03.2022, 23:06
@ DosWorld
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Are you still in Kyjev? How the common life goes on there?
There are over 2,5M refugees, over 200k in CZ...
Now it seems that some negotiation could start.
Also the warming weather complicates russians movements outside roads.
I think Ukraine neutral status would be good deal but don't agree with demilitarization. Just opposite, like in Swiss every man should get a traning and hold a gun at home to be ready if further attack will happen, nobody knows... --- DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access. |
RayeR
CZ, 16.03.2022, 23:32 (edited by RayeR, 17.03.2022, 00:03)
@ mceric
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Power plants |
Yes, the total production of electricity is greater than imports but it has nothing to do with stability and short drops that have to be covered from foreign production. The graph at https://energy-charts.info/charts/power/chart.htm?...tacking=stacked_absolute_area&interval=year
shows like it goes wild from min to max due to renewables. I think that best use of renewables are on houses where it's consumed locally but not in large scopes that destabilize the global grid.
Otherwise you have to admit that electricity will not be available everytime for everyone but the consumption will be strictly limited by spot prices that you will pay - e.g. on sunny/windy day the price will be 100x lower than in gloomy still day and lot of people would simply cannot pay for that - this is not a progress.
I know that building nuclerar power plants was delayed on many places and price has incerased but everything growed up due to inflation, also price of electricity has increased and noone can guess for next 10 years. In our case it's easier that we will not build a new plant on a green field but just add reactor blocks to existing infrasteucture. --- DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access. |
DosWorld
26.03.2022, 05:51
@ DosWorld
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The world is changing. |
Mariupol (russians) https://files.catbox.moe/yz1ypr.mov --- Make DOS great again!
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tkchia
26.03.2022, 07:14
@ RayeR
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Power plants |
Hello RayeR, hello mceric,
> I know that building nuclerar power plants was delayed on many places and
> price has incerased but everything growed up due to inflation, also price
> of electricity has increased and noone can guess for next 10 years. In our
> case it's easier that we will not build a new plant on a green field but
> just add reactor blocks to existing infrasteucture.
Hmm... I am having this mental picture of a scene where a certain leader in the East is threatening to cut off gas and oil supplies, and people in the West still cannot quite decide whether to build more nuclear plants or more wind turbines (or both)...
Thank you! --- https://gitlab.com/tkchia · https://codeberg.org/tkchia · 😴 "MOV AX,0D500H+CMOS_REG_D+NMI" |
mceric
Germany, 26.03.2022, 11:14
@ tkchia
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Power plants |
> Hello RayeR, hello mceric,
>
> > I know that building nuclerar power plants was delayed on many places
> and
> > price has incerased but everything growed up due to inflation, also
> price
> > of electricity has increased and noone can guess for next 10 years. In
> our
> > case it's easier that we will not build a new plant on a green field but
> > just add reactor blocks to existing infrasteucture.
>
> Hmm... I am having this mental picture of a scene where a certain leader in
> the East is threatening to cut off gas and oil supplies, and people in the
> West still cannot quite decide whether to build more nuclear plants or more
> wind turbines (or both)...
Indeed! Note that the UK example actually DOES describe the case where "only" a reactor block has to be added. Still that only worked out financially after the government offered to pay far above normal prices for electricity, which at some point were so low that even coal and gas were not making much profit any more.
At the same time, Germany has been focusing for years to "rescue" the fossil industry, which caused the loss of several 100 000 renewable jobs which apparently have less lobby power. We just left that sector to China and other countries which can build turbines and photovoltaics at the lowest prices.
Either way, discussing about what to do indeed is one of the less effective ways of getting it done. I remember a public discussion event 10 years ago in the Netherlands where some activists from the "other" side seriously suggested to wait until we "soon" have safe fusion power so we could avoid having "ugly" turbines and solar panels standing around in the meantime. --- FreeDOS / DOSEMU2 / ... |
glennmcc
North Jackson, Ohio (USA), 27.03.2022, 05:22
@ mceric
|
Power plants |
> > Hello RayeR, hello mceric,
> >
> > > I know that building nuclerar power plants was delayed on many places
> > and
> > > price has incerased but everything growed up due to inflation, also
> > price
> > > of electricity has increased and noone can guess for next 10 years. In
> > our
> > > case it's easier that we will not build a new plant on a green field
> but
> > > just add reactor blocks to existing infrasteucture.
> >
> > Hmm... I am having this mental picture of a scene where a certain leader
> in
> > the East is threatening to cut off gas and oil supplies, and people in
> the
> > West still cannot quite decide whether to build more nuclear plants or
> more
> > wind turbines (or both)...
>
> Indeed! Note that the UK example actually DOES describe the case where
> "only" a reactor block has to be added. Still that only worked out
> financially after the government offered to pay far above normal prices for
> electricity, which at some point were so low that even coal and gas were
> not making much profit any more.
>
> At the same time, Germany has been focusing for years to "rescue" the
> fossil industry, which caused the loss of several 100 000 renewable jobs
> which apparently have less lobby power. We just left that sector to China
> and other countries which can build turbines and photovoltaics at the
> lowest prices.
>
> Either way, discussing about what to do indeed is one of the less effective
> ways of getting it done. I remember a public discussion event 10 years ago
> in the Netherlands where some activists from the "other" side seriously
> suggested to wait until we "soon" have safe fusion power so we could avoid
> having "ugly" turbines and solar panels standing around in the meantime.
Yep.... "government officials" in every country talk, talk, talk and talk some more.
But, never seem to actually _DO_ much of anything that amounts to much. :( --- --
http://glennmcc.org/ |
tkchia
27.03.2022, 09:25
@ mceric
|
Power plants |
Hello mceric,
> Either way, discussing about what to do indeed is one of the less effective
> ways of getting it done. I remember a public discussion event 10 years ago
> in the Netherlands where some activists from the "other" side seriously
> suggested to wait until we "soon" have safe fusion power so we could avoid
> having "ugly" turbines and solar panels standing around in the meantime.
Ugh, that would be a very uncool suggestion, if someone actually said it.
Personally, I am more inclined towards renewables — but apparently activists such as George Monbiot and James Hansen have stated that nuclear power is necessary for energy independence, and their words hold weight to me.
Thank you! --- https://gitlab.com/tkchia · https://codeberg.org/tkchia · 😴 "MOV AX,0D500H+CMOS_REG_D+NMI" |
mceric
Germany, 30.03.2022, 09:17
@ glennmcc
|
Power plants |
By the way, from a news item about wind energy and hydrogen being an upcoming trend in France: The French plan to build new nuclear reactors, which they expect to be ready by 2035. Not exactly a quick fix compared to the renewables you could install until then. --- FreeDOS / DOSEMU2 / ... |
RayeR
CZ, 30.03.2022, 17:16
@ mceric
|
Power plants |
I still didn't get how do you think you will be able to maintain stable global grid by connecting more and more renewables _without_ any big e-storage devices (like pump&sink water power plants) while reducing old good stable sources. You have only 2 options during drop - buy electricity outside from someone else who will be able to produce it (for very high spot price) or cut off some consumers during peak load. BTW is Germany ready to stop buying Russian gas used to finance Putler's army? I read it will took at least 3 years... --- DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access. |
RayeR
CZ, 01.04.2022, 04:37
@ RayeR
|
Power plants |
Hm, since today Russia wants to pay for gas in roubles only. Let's see... --- DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access. |
rr
Berlin, Germany, 01.04.2022, 07:18
@ RayeR
|
Power plants |
> Hm, since today Russia wants to pay for gas in roubles only. Let's see...
Russia wants to get payed for gas in rubles --- Forum admin |
DosWorld
07.04.2022, 10:39 (edited by DosWorld, 07.04.2022, 11:48)
@ DosWorld
|
The world is changing. |
Hello!
This message has been sent to the following recipients:
1. Police of the Netherlands
2. Department of Cyber-Police of Ukraine.
3. The press of the country of the Netherlands.
(used google translate)
I am a citizen of Ukraine, Viacheslav Komenda,
I live in the city of Kyiv, [censored]
+38-095-[censored]
I'll start with some facts.
A source:
https://itc.ua/news/vladelecz-olx-i-avito-otkazyva...leniya-o-poiske-naemnikov-dlya-vojny-v-ukraine/
1. Prosus (Naspers holding) from the Netherlands is also the owner of the olx.ua and avito.ru services (private trading platforms)
2. The avito.ru website is closed for access from other countries (only Russia)
A source:
https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/4465681-rossyiane-prodauit-nahrablennoe-v-ukrayne-kak-trofey
3. On the russian-market site avito.ru there were advertisements for the sale of "trophies" (the source talk about the "trophy" from Brovary city - clothing with the symbols of the Olympic Team of Ukraine)
I want to inform the police about the possible complicity of the specified holding in looting (resale) in order to obtain benefits (paid ads, commission, etc.), as well as complicity in hiding the traces of possible crimes. --- Make DOS great again!
Carthago delenda est, Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse. |
DosWorld
07.04.2022, 13:12
@ DosWorld
|
The world is changing. |
Also, if somebody want create games, i can share personal info of russian soldiers in different scope - general (~120k soldiers), top marauders (sent over 50kg from Belarus to Russia), some persons from FSB (KGB), or war-criminal divisions stuff (located in Bucha).
Source - mil department of Ukraine, political opposition from Belarus. --- Make DOS great again!
Carthago delenda est, Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse. |
rr
Berlin, Germany, 07.04.2022, 19:01
@ DosWorld
|
The world is changing. |
> Also, if somebody want create games, i can share personal info of russian
> soldiers in different scope - general (~120k soldiers), top marauders (sent
> over 50kg from Belarus to Russia), some persons from FSB (KGB), or
> war-criminal divisions stuff (located in Bucha).
"want create games"? What games? And why? --- Forum admin |
DosWorld
11.04.2022, 14:45 (edited by DosWorld, 11.04.2022, 17:42)
@ rr
|
The world is changing. |
> What games?
Strategy-style etc. Today, we have tons of content - maps, photos, video etc.
Not need invent game-world, just go out from home and make photo.
For example, today i made few photo (one of) when i return to home from north:
https://files.catbox.moe/t3r51y.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/7zd8jl.jpg
Few games has been created: 1, 2
(imho, not best games)
> And why?
Because people like games.
Possible sell via steam, but i don't believe in commercial part of this idea.
May be, i am return to this idea and create something "just for fun". --- Make DOS great again!
Carthago delenda est, Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse. |
DosWorld
08.05.2022, 13:57 (edited by DosWorld, 08.05.2022, 14:35)
@ DosWorld
|
The world is changing. |
Top-secret defense object:
https://de.catbox.moe/u0j910.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/4bewgv.jpg
PS: bottles at left and right - "Molotov cocktail".
PPS: Why Greta Thunberg keep silince? (I have more questions to people who promote she). Also, more funny fact - i hear nothing about COVID from 24 feb. (has been ended, no mask required all this time. balaclava is enough) --- Make DOS great again!
Carthago delenda est, Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse. |
tkchia
08.05.2022, 16:59 (edited by tkchia, 08.05.2022, 17:54)
@ DosWorld
|
The world is changing. |
Hello DosWorld,
> PPS: Why Greta Thunberg keep silince? (I have more questions to people
Apparently her message got ... co-opted? And apparently she does not like that (naturally).
> > But, in her own bleak assessment, it all made little difference. “They
> > invite cherry-picked young people to meetings like this to pretend they
> > are listening to us,” she told a youth conference in Milan, Italy ahead of
> > COP26 last year.
> >
> > Her appearances in the halls of power had been sensational, televisual,
> > but ultimately just the right amount of discomfort for world leaders to
> > endure. Politicians would leave the room believing, “Yeah! We got
> > flagellated by Greta, and I’ve been absolved of my sins!” Henn said.
> >
> > The language she used to burn world leaders got coopted, sublimated.
———
> who promote she). Also, more funny fact - i hear nothing about COVID from
> 24 feb. (has been ended, no mask required all this time. balaclava is
> enough)
Well, new subvariants of COVID-19 Omicron are still springing up, as late as last month (April 2022). So this whole COVID-19 pandemic is still very much in the present tense.
If your local news is not talking about it, it probably just means that they decided not to pay attention, for whatever reason.
And I imagine that for someone in (or near) 🇺🇦, certain matters might be more urgent than getting the next dose of the Moderna vaccine. But that does not mean the virus is no longer around... Stay safe.
Thank you! --- https://gitlab.com/tkchia · https://codeberg.org/tkchia · 😴 "MOV AX,0D500H+CMOS_REG_D+NMI" |
mceric
Germany, 08.05.2022, 18:03
@ DosWorld
|
The world is changing. |
> Why Greta Thunberg keep silince? (I have more questions to people
> who promote she). Also, more funny fact - i hear nothing about COVID
> from 24 feb. (has been ended, no mask required all this time...
There still is plenty of news about covid. Maybe you stopped reading it when reading more about the war?
https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg still focuses on climate protests, which in turn do occasionally also mention the war, but their main topic of course is the environment. --- FreeDOS / DOSEMU2 / ... |
Japheth
Germany (South), 09.05.2022, 13:07
@ DosWorld
|
The world is changing. |
> PPS: Why Greta Thunberg keep silince?
> i hear nothing about COVID from 24 feb.
You shouldn't "fear" that the rats have left the sinking ship...
This COVID thing has shown once more that people rather believe "a big lie than a small one".
And this war - well, I guess they welcome the opportunity to blame Mr. Putin for the quickly approaching crash of the Euro... --- MS-DOS forever! |
Khusraw
Bucharest, Romania, 09.05.2022, 14:42
@ Japheth
|
The world is changing. |
> > PPS: Why Greta Thunberg keep silince?
> > i hear nothing about COVID from 24 feb.
>
> You shouldn't "fear" that the rats have left the sinking ship...
>
> This COVID thing has shown once more that people rather believe "a big lie
> than a small one".
>
> And this war - well, I guess they welcome the opportunity to blame Mr.
> Putin for the quickly approaching crash of the Euro...
Great post! I was ready to write something similar. Anyway, perhaps you know the quote, no matter who said it: “You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.” --- Glory to God for all things |
DosWorld
09.05.2022, 18:52 (edited by DosWorld, 09.05.2022, 19:38)
@ Japheth
|
The world is changing. |
> This COVID thing has shown once more that people rather believe "a big lie
> than a small one".
Now, we have (in UA) situation near to ideal for mass pandemic. Questions: Where are the stadiums filled with infected corpses? Where are the statistics with millions of deaths?
Facts:
1. Civil people does not use mask and have free entrance to shops, metro, bus'es, government offices etc. (100% of restrictions is stoped)
2. Army = "many people in one place". Bomb shelters also do not isolate people from each other.
3. Medicine state:
3.1. Many people have no access to medicine (also to drugs, water, food, electricity and Greta's twitter)
3.2. Government medic system is a little bit degradated (imho, medicine power is 70% then before war)
4. High internal migration of people (inside country).
5. High external migration of people (from/to country - UA <=> EU). What about COVID into Poland? Poland must be most damaged, but not. Why? Polish President Anrzej Duda said that in the near future there will be no more borders between Poland and Ukraine, and the peoples of the two countries will be able to "live together on this land." I am not sure in near future, but this is not sounds like an introduction to total quarantine.
Personally, me: had a strange flu for a week. (everything is OK, just drinks many hot tea and many sleep). I have no info about deaths from my social links.
Imho, power of COVID is very overscaled. Near to criminally overscaled. (re-read my questions at begin) --- Make DOS great again!
Carthago delenda est, Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse. |
tkchia
09.05.2022, 18:54
@ Japheth
|
The world is changing. |
Hello Japheth,
> > PPS: Why Greta Thunberg keep silince?
> > i hear nothing about COVID from 24 feb.
> You shouldn't "fear" that the rats have left the sinking ship...
> This COVID thing has shown once more that people rather believe "a big lie
> than a small one".
Huh? Are you saying the possibility of run-away climate change is not real? Or that COVID-19 is not real? Or ... ?
(No, I do not think the workings of CO₂ molecules or coronavirus particles have any relation to what news journalists do or do not do.)
Thank you! --- https://gitlab.com/tkchia · https://codeberg.org/tkchia · 😴 "MOV AX,0D500H+CMOS_REG_D+NMI" |
tkchia
09.05.2022, 19:37
@ DosWorld
|
The world is changing. |
Hello DosWorld,
> Now, we have (in UA) situation near to ideal for mass pandemic. Questions:
> Where are the stadiums filled with infected corpses? Where are the
> statistics with millions of deaths?
I am pretty sure you can find the answers to these questions if you just look in the right places...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Poland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Ukraine
In short: apparently Poland still sees about 1,000 to 2,000 new coronavirus cases, and up to about 64 deaths from the coronavirus, every day (as of April). And Ukraine was seeing about 29,000 to 44,000 new cases including 100 to 310 deaths every day, at least up to 18 February, but apparently they could not (?) keep track of this stuff once the invasion began.
So there you go.
Thank you! --- https://gitlab.com/tkchia · https://codeberg.org/tkchia · 😴 "MOV AX,0D500H+CMOS_REG_D+NMI" |