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nuclear war (Miscellaneous)

posted by kerravon, Ligao, Free World North, 09.11.2022, 07:43

> > In a discussion elsewhere (hercules-380), I was told
> > that in a nuclear war, it is possible that all
> > industrial cities in the world will be nuked, so that
> > they don't have a competitive advantage.
>
> > And that the only people who will still be able to
> > manufacture processors will be universities, and
> > they will only be able to do 8-bit computers, not
> > 16-bit.
>
> And universities are not based in cities ? Weird kind of philosophy.
My understanding is that there are universities in cities that don't have an industrial base that is subject to nuking. I'm currently in (rural) Philippines, and according to what I was told in hercules-380, the two Philippines cities subject to nuking are only Manila and Quezon. My provincial capital is Legazpi, and there are definitely universities there, because my in-laws go to universities in this province. Although I don't know if any of those can fabricate chips. Maybe we have to link up with Taiwanese universities - I have no idea.

So according to that theory of nuclear war, no-one is going to spend effort nuking every single city in the Philippines. Just the two that have some industrial capacity.

> Anyway, I think I would take a bike, and bike to ASML. Agreed, that is more
> than twice as far (30min instead 20) than to the university, but still.
>
> I also don't understand why you think that Universities strictly limit
> themselves to pre 1985 technology.

I'm talking about fabricating new chips. I was told (and I can get you the link if you want, and ask for clarification), that they are the only people who can fabricate new CPUs, and they can only do very basic 8-bit CPUs.

I have no idea (and I don't think anyone else knows with any confidence either), how long it will take to get up to 16-bit CPUs.

> I think overall, the bulk of Dos usage was on 32-bit capable hardware.
That could be a long time coming. Or maybe it will be a short time - no-one knows for sure.

My question is - if it is a long time, and 16-bit segmented architecture ends up being a thing, yet again, what do you suggest?

BFN. Paul.

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