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FPC 16-bit (80186 cpu + NASM info) (Announce)

posted by marcov, 03.05.2013, 15:10

> NASM supports "cpu 8086" to avoid (most) invalid instructions. (I think it
> used to only miss catching near 386+ jumps. Perhaps out of range short
> jumps can be conveniently worked around by -O2,

Good to know. But note that inline assembler and backend-assembler are two different things.

The inline assembler is based on converted tables of NASM (for x86 likes at least).

The backend assembler happens to be nasm for the 16-bit port, but is not used otherwise. But e.g. the internal assembler can read an instruction as mnemonic, but output it to the backend assembler using db's.

> Anything NASM version after 0.98.39 only compiles (officially) with C99 and
> 32-bit host (probably due to higher requirements from adding 64-bit).

That's no problem. There is no use for a 16-bit hosted one, since the compiler won't be 16-bit hosted anyway.

> enter ; enter stack frame (nested procedure variables)
> leave ; leave stack frame

Not used in practice, due to nesting limits (31 or 32). Leave is sometimes used.

> bound ; array bounds checking (calls INT 5)
> into ; overflow checking (calls INT 4)

Not used afaik.

> insb, insw ; read from port in DX to [ES:DI]
> outsb, outsw ; write [DS:SI] to port in DX

No instructions a compiler would generate (manual assembler in libraries maybe)

> Quirks:
> =======
>
> shl ax,33 ; doesn't always clear AX anymore (now only uses 5 bits)
> pop cs ; not allowed anymore
> push sp ; still decremented before push, unlike 286
> aam 10 ; not supported by NEC V20/V30
> salc ; undocumented but "should" still work
> [/code]

Of those, probably only push sp could be generated by the compiler, and that that change is fairly known (detections are based on it).

And since I always had a 386+ (even in my 16-bit times), I'm not that well versed in this.

> P.S. Feel free to ignore all of this, you don't have to pass it along to
> Nikolai. Though if he's messing with DOS, perhaps he should visit here
> himself!!

He might already have a look from time to time already.

Complete thread:

• FPC 16-bit - marcov, 26.04.2013, 09:41
  • FPC 16-bit - Laaca, 26.04.2013, 16:14
    • FPC 16-bit - marcov, 26.04.2013, 22:30
  • FPC 16-bit - DOS386, 28.04.2013, 14:53
    • FPC 16-bit - marcov, 29.04.2013, 10:17
      • FPC 16-bit - Laaca, 29.04.2013, 12:52
        • FPC 16-bit - marcov, 30.04.2013, 17:36
        • FPC 16-bit - marcov, 01.05.2013, 19:47
          • FPC 16-bit (80186 cpu + NASM info) - Rugxulo, 03.05.2013, 10:40
            • FPC 16-bit (80186 cpu + NASM info) - marcov, 03.05.2013, 15:10
      • FPC 16-bit - Rugxulo, 30.04.2013, 14:00
        • FPC 16-bit - marcov, 30.04.2013, 17:15
          • FPC 16-bit - Rugxulo, 01.05.2013, 03:12
            • FPC 16-bit - marcov, 03.05.2013, 23:27
              • FPC 16-bit - Rugxulo, 06.05.2013, 17:43
                • FPC 16-bit - marcov, 08.05.2013, 23:39
                  • FPC 16-bit - Rugxulo, 15.05.2013, 19:00
                    • FPC 16-bit - marcov, 15.05.2013, 21:27
                      • FPC 16-bit - Rugxulo, 15.05.2013, 22:44
                        • FPC 16-bit - Laaca, 16.05.2013, 10:15
                          • FPC 16-bit - Rugxulo, 16.05.2013, 20:35
                          • FPC 16-bit - marcov, 16.05.2013, 20:46
                            • FPC 16-bit - marcov, 16.05.2013, 21:26
                        • FPC 16-bit - marcov, 16.05.2013, 21:19
                          • FPC 16-bit - Rugxulo, 17.05.2013, 07:52
                            • FPC 16-bit - marcov, 05.06.2013, 13:34
                              • FPC 16-bit - Rugxulo, 06.06.2013, 00:03
                                • FPC 16-bit - marcov, 01.07.2013, 22:29
                                  • FPC 16-bit - Rugxulo, 07.07.2013, 01:52
          • P5 (PCOM/PINT) with FPC 2.7.1 snapshot - Rugxulo, 03.05.2013, 10:53
            • P5 (PCOM/PINT) with FPC 2.7.1 snapshot - marcov, 03.05.2013, 15:04