TSR vs DEVICE= (Announce)
> ... While CONFIG.SYS is being processed, many of the DOS services that
> you generally take for granted (even very basic things like writing
> text to the screen, manipulating files, and redirection/piping) are
> limited or non-existent ...
Who needs any of THAT except text displays, when all you want to do is
load a DEVICE-driver?? Last I noticed, Int 21h AH=09h will display a
text line on any DOS system, and one can always write an Int 10h loop,
since that is how DOS handles an Int 21h AH=09h anyway. More complex
graphics have NO BUSINESS being in a DEVICE-driver's load routines!
> ... The only drivers that actually need to be in CONFIG.SYS are things
> that the BIOS or DOS kernel may require early in the boot process ...
THANK YOU for "making my case" re: why UIDE always-was and always-will-be
a SYSTEM driver named UIDE.SYS!!!
> ... I think you should always have the option of removing drivers from
> memory ad-hoc if you want to without needing to reboot.
Such an "unload" process requires "tracking down" interrupt vectors and
doing some other things to ensure a TSR in fact CAN be unloaded! This
would add maybe 1000 bytes to UIDE, only to save the lousy 944 bytes it
now takes in upper-memory. Many writers of even smaller drivers than
UIDE might have much WORSE to say about an "everything unloadable" idea
which I think is flatly UNREASONABLE!!
> If a DOS driver is so old that it is not being updated or maintained any
> more, than there is not a lot you can do about that. But, all modern DOS
> programs should IMHO use modern protocols and installation techniques ...
BALONEY, and consider me PROUD in that case to write "old" drivers that
flatly do not NEED and will never HAVE such utter GARBAGE!! Especially
not needed, after my most-recent changes to UIDE ...
I can give you all a much better "order" to follow, rather than any such
"Sponsored by FATHEADED College-Professor DUFII" schemes like the above.
In the U.S. it is an old engineering "joke", not-so-much of a JOKE any
more, called the "K.I.S.S. Principle". The letters K.I.S.S. stand for
Keep It SIMPLE, STUPID!!
Perhaps good advice, for all those who have only a B.S.C.S. degree, and
PROVE IT all the time!!
I always wondered if the degree B.S.C.S. was, in itself, a huge JOKE by
professors in other more-established college disciplines who had become
rather DISGUSTED by "Gurus", "Wizards", or other self-inflated BOOBS in
computers, as the last 2 letters are often noted to mean Chicken S***!!
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- "That Will Be ALL!" For UIDE and USB! - Jack, 06.06.2010, 20:37
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- "That Will Be ALL!" For UIDE and USB! - Rugxulo, 07.06.2010, 04:20
- Re: UIDE Unloading And Cache-Sizes. - Jack, 07.06.2010, 05:30
- Re: UIDE Unloading And Cache-Sizes. - Rugxulo, 08.06.2010, 01:35
- Re: UIDE Unloading And Cache-Sizes. - marcov, 08.06.2010, 23:18
- Re: UIDE Unloading And Cache-Sizes. - Rugxulo, 09.06.2010, 04:23
- Re: UIDE Unloading And Cache-Sizes. - marcov, 08.06.2010, 23:18
- Re: UIDE Unloading And Cache-Sizes. - Rugxulo, 08.06.2010, 01:35
- Re: UIDE Unloading And Cache-Sizes. - Jack, 07.06.2010, 05:30
- "That Will Be ALL!" For UIDE and USB! - Japheth, 07.06.2010, 07:51
- TSR vs DEVICE= - DOS386, 07.06.2010, 08:01
- TSR vs DEVICE= - RayeR, 08.06.2010, 15:46
- TSR vs DEVICE= - Arjay, 08.06.2010, 19:30
- TSR vs DEVICE= - RayeR, 09.06.2010, 02:00
- TSR vs DEVICE= - Japheth, 09.06.2010, 09:50
- TSR vs DEVICE= - RayeR, 09.06.2010, 16:15
- TSR vs DEVICE= - roytam, 09.06.2010, 18:18
- TSR vs DEVICE= - DOS386, 27.06.2010, 14:30
- TSR vs DEVICE= - Arjay, 08.06.2010, 19:30
- TSR vs DEVICE= - bretjohn, 18.06.2010, 21:50
- TSR vs DEVICE= - Jack, 18.06.2010, 23:29
- TSR vs DEVICE= - bretjohn, 19.06.2010, 01:18
- Nothing Against You! - Jack, 19.06.2010, 01:52
- TSR vs DEVICE= - Japheth, 19.06.2010, 09:02
- TSR vs DEVICE= - Arjay, 19.06.2010, 19:13
- TSR vs DEVICE= - bretjohn, 19.06.2010, 20:33
- TSR vs DEVICE= - Japheth, 20.06.2010, 09:04
- TSR vs DEVICE= - Arjay, 20.06.2010, 12:48
- TSR vs DEVICE= - bretjohn, 20.06.2010, 16:32
- TSR vs DEVICE= - Ninho, 20.06.2010, 17:34
- TSR vs DEVICE= - Japheth, 20.06.2010, 09:04
- TSR vs DEVICE= - Jack, 18.06.2010, 23:29
- TSR vs DEVICE= - RayeR, 08.06.2010, 15:46
- "That Will Be ALL!" For UIDE and USB! - marcov, 08.06.2010, 22:41
- "Capital Letters". - Jack, 08.06.2010, 23:15
- "Capital Letters". - marcov, 08.06.2010, 23:19
- No "Rants", But ... - Jack, 09.06.2010, 00:24
- "Capital Letters". - Arjay, 09.06.2010, 00:37
- "Capital Letters". - Jack, 09.06.2010, 00:48
- Seeking the middle ground: thinking re flexibility+realibity - Arjay, 09.06.2010, 02:29
- Bret's USB driver bugs - I was testing v0.11 by accident - Arjay, 09.06.2010, 02:50
- Seeking the middle ground ... - Jack, 09.06.2010, 04:29
- giving back a block of HMA - Ninho, 10.06.2010, 16:03
- Giving Back HMA ... - Jack, 10.06.2010, 17:03
- Giving Back HMA ... - Ninho, 11.06.2010, 09:48
- Giving Back HMA ... - Jack, 11.06.2010, 16:43
- Giving Back HMA ... - Ninho, 12.06.2010, 20:30
- Giving Back HMA ... - Jack, 11.06.2010, 16:43
- Giving Back HMA ... - Ninho, 11.06.2010, 09:48
- Giving Back HMA ... - Jack, 10.06.2010, 17:03
- Seeking the middle ground ... - Arjay, 11.06.2010, 19:29
- Seeking the middle ground ... - Jack, 11.06.2010, 21:42
- Seeking the middle ground ... - Arjay, 12.06.2010, 01:12
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Ninho, 12.06.2010, 14:37
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Arjay, 12.06.2010, 15:13
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Ninho, 12.06.2010, 15:49
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Arjay, 12.06.2010, 16:33
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - RayeR, 13.06.2010, 10:41
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Arjay, 13.06.2010, 16:11
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Ninho, 13.06.2010, 13:24
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Arjay, 13.06.2010, 18:54
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - RayeR, 13.06.2010, 10:41
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Arjay, 12.06.2010, 16:33
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Arjay, 13.06.2010, 20:42
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Rugxulo, 14.06.2010, 04:27
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver / RJDUMP - Arjay, 19.06.2010, 15:08
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Matjaz, 20.06.2010, 11:58
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Turbo pascal example - Arjay, 20.06.2010, 13:06
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Turbo pascal example - Arjay, 20.06.2010, 13:39
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Turbo pascal example - Arjay, 20.06.2010, 13:06
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Rugxulo, 14.06.2010, 04:27
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Ninho, 12.06.2010, 15:49
- Combined SYS device drivers - more than 1 driver in a file - Arjay, 21.06.2010, 17:48
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver, multi-header drivers - ecm, 10.08.2010, 18:49
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver, multi-header drivers - Arjay, 10.08.2010, 19:41
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver, multi-header drivers - ecm, 10.08.2010, 20:21
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver, multi-header drivers - Arjay, 10.08.2010, 19:41
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Arjay, 12.06.2010, 15:13
- Combined .com executable/DOS driver - Ninho, 12.06.2010, 14:37
- Seeking the middle ground ... - Arjay, 12.06.2010, 01:12
- Seeking the middle ground ... - Jack, 11.06.2010, 21:42
- giving back a block of HMA - Ninho, 10.06.2010, 16:03
- Seeking the middle ground: thinking re flexibility+realibity - Arjay, 09.06.2010, 02:29
- "Capital Letters". - Jack, 09.06.2010, 00:48
- "Capital Letters". - marcov, 08.06.2010, 23:19
- "Capital Letters". - Jack, 08.06.2010, 23:15
- No "Removable" HARD Disks Supported By UIDE! - Jack, 08.06.2010, 23:57
- "That Will Be ALL!" For UIDE and USB! - bretjohn, 15.06.2010, 22:47
- Further Comments ... - Jack, 16.06.2010, 01:35
- "That Will Be ALL!" For UIDE and USB! - Rugxulo, 17.06.2010, 12:07
- "That Will Be ALL!" For UIDE and USB! - bretjohn, 17.06.2010, 16:53
- "That Will Be ALL!" For UIDE and USB! - Rugxulo, 17.06.2010, 17:45
- "That Will Be ALL!" For UIDE and USB! - bretjohn, 17.06.2010, 16:53
- "That Will Be ALL!" For UIDE and USB! - Rugxulo, 07.06.2010, 04:20
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