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Turbo Pascal 6.0 (vs. others) (Developers)

posted by Rugxulo Homepage, Usono, 23.02.2020, 23:55

> WTF?
> We are in the forum about DOS and about DOS programming. When I will want
> to discuss about Win64 I will go elsewhere.
Obviously. I just meant that Win64 is way more common than DOS or Win9x. You have to write for what OSes you run (and your customers/users). Setting up a FreeDOS VM isn't hard, but anything more than that is a burden to end users. Portability of code is usually more important than nostalgia or personal comfort.

> Win9x is also not dead because I have it as main OS on my desktop PC and
> run it few times in a week. (Warcraft3, planescape torment,
> hammer&sickle...)
It's no longer updated nor sold directly by MS, so it's unsupported and not directly recommended. Non-enthusiasts don't have native DOS installs anymore.

My Dell laptop from 2010, that I keep mentioning, has a diagnostics partition using DRMK (Dell Real Mode Kernel, aka barely-modified DR-DOS). But they intentionally limited that and kept it hidden and very, VERY! minimal. (probably limited for "security", ugh, God forbid they make it minimally useful for system tasks or reinstalling or analyzing anything). Without a traditional BIOS or CSM, you can't even do that anymore.

> Again. We are speaking about DOS. If you use it you have a proper hardware
> or you have a adequate emulation.
Or just don't use it for gaming. Or ignore sound.

> So we want a support for DOS soundcards
> (compatible with SB/GUS/PAS on hardware or driver layer).
> Support for everything else (PCI soundcards, AC97, HD audio) is amazing but
> it is rather a bonus - not a necessarity.
Paku Paku, Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, and Retro City Rampage DX:486 all support PC speaker. (Better than nothing, IMHO.)

> It is crucial. Because without sound you virtualy can't make any games. And
> DOS is rather retrogaming platform than platform for productive work.
DOS can do some productive work, in the right hands. Use the right tool for the job. Even OberonOS probably has a niche, for those who know what they're doing, even if only under VM.

Games are fun on generic machines sometimes, but we probably need a Raspberry Pi clone of a 586/SB16/VGA (or handheld? Chromebook/DOSbook??). Modern PCs just don't care, and VMs are better than nothing (but usually for non-gaming). I guess RPi + DOSBox works for some people?? Dunno.

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