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travolter 13.02.2011, 12:41	looking for modern image viewers (Users) Post reply
	I need an image viewer for my old Toshiba libretto CT100 computer. This laptop have a screen resolution of 800x480 so I need a image viewer with following features: - 800x480 or near resolution - image "fit to width" feature Currently Im using win95 image viewers.. cause the fit to width feature.. but I would like a fast DOS viewer for same task

DOS386

13.02.2011, 14:52

@ travolter

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> I need an image viewer for my old Toshiba libretto CT100 computer

CPU ??? RAM ???

> This laptop have a screen resolution of 800x480

gives 640x480 :-(

> - 800x480 or near resolution
> - image "fit to width" feature
> Currently Im using win95 image viewers

looks like 80486 / early Pentium

> cause the fit to width feature

http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.GraphPaintCAD

But can't promise "fit to width" ...

> but I would like a fast DOS viewer for same task

:-) Many are fast, all old, some do support PNG :-|

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Dex

14.02.2011, 23:37

@ travolter

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> I need an image viewer for my old Toshiba libretto CT100 computer.
>
> This laptop have a screen resolution of 800x480 so I need a image viewer
> with following features:
>
> - 800x480 or near resolution
> - image "fit to width" feature
>
> Currently Im using win95 image viewers.. cause the fit to width feature..
> but I would like a fast DOS viewer for same task

Does this laptop support vesa 2 ?

Laaca

Czech republic,
15.02.2011, 10:56

@ travolter

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I like PictView or SEA.

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travolter

15.02.2011, 13:07

@ Laaca

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> I like PictView or SEA.

I use these two one but I notice that there are no more advanced image viewers.

My computer have vesa 2, its a pentium 166mmx with 32ram. Enough to run DOS and win95.

there are decent Video players in dos like Mplayer, Quickview, and also audio players.. but about image viewers.. I lack in them more customization.

The 800x400 resolution of my laptop screen is one problem. Using win95 is fine cause I have driver to set this resolution.. but not in DOS.

another issuer is the "fit to width". I use the image viewers to read Comics and image texts.. so I need a viewer that fit width so Im able to only do scroll down to read.

Thanks for the replies and the help guys. I understand that Image viewers are not very popular and its hard to find updated projects.

Rugxulo Usono, 15.02.2011, 15:57 (edited by Rugxulo, 16.02.2011, 00:10) @ travolter	looking for modern image viewers Post reply
	> > I like PictView or SEA. > > I use these two one but I notice that there are no more advanced image > viewers. I don't know if it's exactly what you want, been a while since I tried it, and the official website doesn't have it (anymore?), but try Pace Player: http://www.allegro.cc/depot/PacePlayer EDIT: Check rr's build of UnRar, if you need it.

travolter

16.02.2011, 10:27

@ Rugxulo

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> > > I like PictView or SEA.
> >
> > I use these two one but I notice that there are no more advanced image
> > viewers.
>
> I don't know if it's exactly what you want, been a while since I tried it,
> and the official website doesn't have it (anymore?), but try Pace Player:
>
> http://www.allegro.cc/depot/PacePlayer
>
> EDIT: Check rr's build of
> UnRar, if you need it.

That program have lot of goodies!!!! I really never tried it before. It lacks of resize options that Im looking for.. but Its worth to be conserved

FFK 16.02.2011, 11:11 (edited by FFK, 16.02.2011, 11:49) @ travolter	looking for modern image viewers Post reply
	if you like the "DUGL Player" DUGL Player GUI, that a 16bpp viewer is enough for your needs and that you give me specifications of your needs then I think that I can easily develop a viewer for you

DOS386

17.02.2011, 06:23

@ FFK

looking for modern image viewers | DUGL

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> if you like the "DUGL Player" GUI, that a 16bpp viewer
> is enough for your needs and that you give me specifications
> of your needs then I think that I can easily develop a viewer for you

COOL, FFK is back. Any update for DUGL PLAYER (sound, ZOOM down, YUV4MPEG out, YUV4MPEG in, ...) in the pipeline ?

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FFK

18.02.2011, 00:54

@ DOS386

looking for modern image viewers | DUGL

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Hi,
> COOL, FFK is back.

:-)

> Any update for DUGL PLAYER :
> sound

Documentations are very boring and time consuming to extract useful informations. So currently development of an ICH5 sound driver stopped at so 30%. I do prefer focusing on the few spare time I have on more productive things ! I tried to follow mpxplay implementation but it do not hook IRQ as required by my current driver implementation.

> ZOOM down,
> YUV4MPEG out, YUV4MPEG in, ...) in the pipeline ?

no currently

I remarked that DUGL Player is very slow decoding theora video compared to others players, so I tried to compile again with other options without success :-( Any hint or ready theora DJGPP binaries welcome.

In fact, I was working on DUGL core library adding :
- CTmouse wheel support
- Keyboard keydown timing integrated inside the keyboard handler (very useful for games)
- Little more better VESA BIOS compatibility
- And the huge new set of graphic functions called "Multi". It's some thing like openGL "Vertex Buffer" when you render a set of pixels, or lines or triangles on a single call, which allow a good speed improvement (for example Multi putpixels have a bandwidth of 25 millions pixels / sec instead of 12 millions pixels / sec with a single call of putpixel) ... I'm still working on ..

travolter

17.02.2011, 10:48

@ FFK

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> if you like the "DUGL Player"
> DUGL Player GUI, that a
> 16bpp viewer is enough for your needs and that you give me specifications
> of your needs then I think that I can easily develop a viewer for you :-)

Hey!! if its easy for you would be a nice present ;)

my specs are:

- 800x480 screen resolution

- image fit to width, so you can only have to press the down arrow key to scroll page down and read. (comic reader)

- continuous vertical scroll. When you scroll down one image and it reaches the end, automatically the next one appear.. so you dont need to press any key to load the next page.. only press the down arrow key. (comic reader )

- enable ALT key to select the top menu bar. My old computer dont have mouse.. so Im keyboard master ;)

Dex

17.02.2011, 20:24

@ travolter

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> > if you like the "DUGL Player"
> > DUGL Player GUI, that a
> > 16bpp viewer is enough for your needs and that you give me
> specifications
> > of your needs then I think that I can easily develop a viewer for you
> :-)
>
> Hey!! if its easy for you would be a nice present ;)
>
> my specs are:
>
> - 800x480 screen resolution
>
> - image fit to width, so you can only have to press the down arrow key to
> scroll page down and read. (comic reader)
>
> - continuous vertical scroll. When you scroll down one image and it reaches
> the end, automatically the next one appear.. so you dont need to press any
> key to load the next page.. only press the down arrow key. (comic reader
> )
>
> - enable ALT key to select the top menu bar. My old computer dont have
> mouse.. so Im keyboard master ;)

What format are your images (comic) jpg, png etc and how much memory does your laptop have ? .
And how are the comic images named, as in the image viewer needs to know the order to show the next image etc.

Any info will be help full.

FFK

18.02.2011, 01:15

@ Dex

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>
> What format are your images (comic) jpg, png etc

I guess PNG ?

> and how much memory does your laptop have ? .
> And how are the comic images named, as in the image viewer needs to know
> the order to show the next image etc.
>
> Any info will be help full.

I'm thinking about a simple text file format descriptor :
---------------------------------------------------
line 0 : DBOOK ; signature
line 1 : [number of pages or images] ; integer
line 2 : [page/image 0 full file name] ; example "c:/mycartoon/superman/page0.png"
.
.

line n : [page/image N full file name] ; example "c:/mycartoon/superman/page[N].png"
--------------------------------------------------

FFK

18.02.2011, 01:06

@ travolter

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>
> Hey!! if its easy for you would be a nice present ;)

Welcome :-)

>
> my specs are:
>
> - 800x480 screen resolution
>

800x480 should be supported by your VESA 2 BIOS to be usable.
Any way I can try to initialise this graphic mode, and if not available revert to 640x480

> - image fit to width, so you can only have to press the down arrow key to
> scroll page down and read. (comic reader)
>
> - continuous vertical scroll. When you scroll down one image and it reaches
> the end, automatically the next one appear.. so you dont need to press any
> key to load the next page.. only press the down arrow key. (comic reader
> )

Ok, but as you have a very few memory I guess that the viewer will keep in memory only one image.

>
> - enable ALT key to select the top menu bar. My old computer dont have
> mouse.. so Im keyboard master ;)

The ALT key to enable menu bar is currently not available on DUGL Plus GUI,
But I guess that the image viewer require only 6 buttons on the bottom of the window ("open" ,"page up", "page down", "begin", "end", "quit") You will have to use tab to move the focus to the wanted button and press space or use keyboard shortcut.

travolter

18.02.2011, 10:52

@ FFK

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Hey.. sorry for not reply sooner:

About the graphic format, only JPG is necesary

About filenames, dont worry about that.

If your program arrange files by names.. all is done now. Because Usually iamges are renamed sequentially: 01, 02, 03.... PIC01, PIC02, PIC03.. etc

Anyway if you want to add a mode to sort files by date... could be nice, (anywa sort by name is enough)

My videocard have built-in 1mb of ram .. and the computer 32mb

> Ok, but as you have a very few memory I guess that the viewer will keep in
> memory only one image.

no problem about that

> The ALT key to enable menu bar is currently not available on DUGL Plus
> GUI,
> But I guess that the image viewer require only 6 buttons on the bottom of
> the window ("open" ,"page up", "page down", "begin", "end", "quit") You
> will have to use tab to move the focus to the wanted button and press space
> or use keyboard shortcut.

ok np. I only need a key shortcut to navigate :)

travolter 18.02.2011, 12:20 (edited by travolter, 18.02.2011, 12:43) @ travolter	looking for modern image viewers Post reply
	> My videocard have built-in 1mb of ram .. and the computer 32mb correction: It has 2MB I checked the specs again Model: NeoMagic MagicGraph 128XD (NM2160) - 2 MB

FFK

21.02.2011, 01:26
(edited by FFK, 21.02.2011, 02:01)

@ travolter

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> > My videocard have built-in 1mb of ram .. and the computer 32mb
>
> correction: It has 2MB I checked the specs again
> Model: NeoMagic MagicGraph 128XD (NM2160) - 2 MB

Hi,

Sorry if I tooked some times to reply. I wanted to make a good quality app ;-)

here download link DUGL Viewer
Here a screenshot
[image]

keyboard shortcuts : (listed in readme.txt)
- Alt+X : Exit
- F3 : Open (if you choose img001.jpg he will pick all img*.jpg files)
- Down : scroll current image down or keep pushed for 0.25 sec to go to next pic
- Up : scroll current image up or keep pushed for 0.5 sec to go to previous pic
- begin : go to first pic
- End : go to last pic
- Right or PageDown : go to next pic
- Left or PageUp : go to previous pic

Sure there a lot of possible improvements like adding page number or capability to choose other than 640x480 video mode.
So I'm waiting for tests and comments.

DOS386

21.02.2011, 08:05

@ FFK

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> here download link http://www.mediaf***.com/?cgzpcb29mddlb2g DUGL Viewer

Please use omp :-)

> So I'm waiting for tests

I'll test :hungry:

> and comments.

What formats does it support ? JPG ? PNG ? WE-BP ? BMP ?

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FFK 21.02.2011, 10:11 @ DOS386	looking for modern image viewers Post reply
	> I'll test > Thanks > What formats does it support ? JPG ? PNG ? WE-BP ? BMP ? Currently only jpg, as asked by Travolter

travolter

21.02.2011, 13:33

@ FFK

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wow!! amazing pal!!!

Im totally in love with that feature of load next/previous page maintaining arrow keys pressed ;P all image viewers/readers should include that.

the reader is totally usable.. the images loads amazingly fast (faster than win95 viewers that I was using until now).. some improvements that could be done:

- could be possible 800x480 resolution? (personal request!!!) I have noticed that this res is available in other DOS programs. Anyway more resolutions for other people with other screens sizes would be nice.

- full screen (maybe better full by default)

- auto hide the mouse cursor (no mouse here.. and its always centered into the screen)

This image viewer is unique with this autoload feature!!! Probably no other comic reader is available into DOS.. so you filled a hole in the DOS programs!!
Keep the good job pal!

Edit.- I dont know if that will be complicated.. the last feature that would be need a comic reader for dos is support to load images included into.rar and .zip files.
Today the digital comics are released into .cbr and .cbz files (rar and zip files renamed). Anyway that feature is useful for anyone that store images into zips/rars

Laaca

Czech republic,
21.02.2011, 14:20

@ travolter

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> - could be possible 800x480 resolution? (personal request!!!) I have
> noticed that this res is available in other DOS programs. Anyway more
> resolutions for other people with other screens sizes would be nice.
>

DOS programs can use any resolution which your card support in video BIOS. If your VideoBIOS does not reports the 800x480 resolution in modelist it is a problem.

However you can try these utilities from graphics cards:
http://www.laaca.borec.cz/soubory/vbepack.rar

It should contain an utility which adds a new modes into modelist. I haven't try it for long time but it could work.

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travolter

21.02.2011, 15:15
(edited by travolter, 21.02.2011, 21:12)

@ Laaca

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> > - could be possible 800x480 resolution? (personal request!!!) I have
> > noticed that this res is available in other DOS programs. Anyway more
> > resolutions for other people with other screens sizes would be nice.
> >
>
> DOS programs can use any resolution which your card support in video BIOS.
> If your VideoBIOS does not reports the 800x480 resolution in modelist it is
> a problem.
>
> However you can try these utilities from graphics cards:
> http://www.laaca.borec.cz/soubory/vbepack.rar
>
> It should contain an utility which adds a new modes into modelist. I
> haven't try it for long time but it could work.

DUGL Viewer currently works at 640x480 mode only :) lets wait further versions.
Ill test the program you recomend. I can use 800x480 in other msdos toosl without problems... but maybe I can dinf some useful tool in the package :)

@FFK

What resize mode are you using into DUGL Viewer that loads the images so fast? point resize? linear resize?.

Currently Im happy with the speed scrolling the images.. but I wonder if other resizers could be selected.. so you can find a balance between speed/quality

(lol.. Im requesting same thing in the mupdf thread ;) )

FFK

22.02.2011, 01:06

@ travolter

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> @FFK
>
> What resize mode are you using into DUGL Viewer that loads the images so
> fast? point resize? linear resize?.

Point resize. In fact it's not a real resize, but like a stretch blit inside the view space.

>
> Currently Im happy with the speed scrolling the images..

It's cool to hear that DUGL is enough fast even in a pentium mmx 166MHZ :-)

> but I wonder if
> other resizers could be selected.. so you can find a balance between
> speed/quality
>
> (lol.. Im requesting same thing in the mupdf thread ;) )

You can check the smooth option (Full screen) in DUGL Player. It can be added also to DUGL Viewer but when enabled :
- We loose some brightness.
- We loose some picture details in case of down sizing.

travolter

22.02.2011, 11:27

@ FFK

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> You can check the smooth option (Full screen) in DUGL Player. It can be
> added also to DUGL Viewer but when enabled :
> - We loose some brightness.
> - We loose some picture details in case of down sizing.

the brightness is not the problem .. I tried dugl player.. image have more blur now.

Maybe its better add the fullscreen option feature and check if the texts are readable or not ( its the only drawback of losing picture detail)

FFK

23.02.2011, 02:04

@ travolter

Dugl viewer ver 0.2

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> the brightness is not the problem .. I tried dugl player.. image have more
> blur now.
>
> Maybe its better add the fullscreen option feature and check if the texts
> are readable or not ( its the only drawback of losing picture detail)

here a newer version Dugl Viewer 0.2

- Added displaying : page number / total pages.
- Added sorting images files by name.
- Added current picture smoothing with keyboard shortcut F5 (disabled by default).
- Modified mouse default position to left, bottom.

Speed of loading image should be slower now, specially if smooth is enabled.
But scrolling speed should be much faster.
Full screen mode and configuration file have to wait for next version.

DOS386

23.02.2011, 07:15

@ FFK

Dugl viewer 0.2 | GAMMA-BUG | Mediaf*** | Windaube ??? :-(

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> Point resize. In fact it's not a real resize, but like a stretch blit inside the view space

Nearest neighbor ?

> using DUGL Viewer with windows 95, then I guess it will always enable a mouse API

:confused:

> Solution will be to use it under plane DOS

:-)

> or that I change default mouse pointer postion to bottom of the screen

:-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

> You can check the smooth option (Full screen) in DUGL Player
> It can be added also to DUGL Viewer but when enabled :
> - We loose some picture details in case of down sizing.

[un]surprisingly ???

> - We loose some brightness.

[un]surprisingly ???

Maybe you are just committing the horrible GAMMA-BUG in your linear super-fast MMX-optimized ZOOM and blur routines :crying:

FYI: average of 0 and 255 in neither 127 nor 128, it's 187 :surprised:

> Added sorting images files by name.

Please add EXT-NAME besides NAME-EXT sorting.

> Modified mouse default position to left, bottom.

Please put it back to center! Windaube sucks :-(

> Full screen mode and configuration file have to wait for next version.

Support for PNG, BMP, WE-BM ?

PS: arrow-down switches to next file ... deliberate or BUG ?

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travolter 23.02.2011, 12:07 @ DOS386	Dugl viewer 0.2 \| GAMMA-BUG \| Mediaf*** \| Windaube ??? :-( Post reply
	> PS: arrow-down switches to next file ... deliberate or BUG ? Its a feature to use a single key to scroll down & load next pic while reading comics keyboard shortcuts : (listed in readme.txt) - Down : scroll current image down or keep pushed for 0.25 sec to go to next pic

FFK

24.02.2011, 01:16

@ DOS386

Dugl viewer 0.2 | GAMMA-BUG | Mediaf*** | Windaube ??? :-(

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> > Point resize. In fact it's not a real resize, but like a stretch blit
> inside the view space
>
> Nearest neighbor ?

Yes

> > - We loose some picture details in case of down sizing.
>
> [un]surprisingly ???

Down sizing will lose details, but with smooth enabled we lose again more details.

>
> > - We loose some brightness.
>
> [un]surprisingly ???
>
> Maybe you are just committing the horrible

Will study if it's possible to make a correction without losing speed.
I think that current blur/smooth effect have a good balance between quality/speed with more than 55 milions pixels / sec blured on my dual core 3 Ghz, DDR 400.

>
> > Added sorting images files by name.
>
> Please add EXT-NAME besides NAME-EXT sorting.
>

Why sorting by EXT if we already open files with same EXT ?

> > Modified mouse default position to left, bottom.
>
> Please put it back to center! Windaube sucks :-(

Will put default position on CFG file.

>
> Support for PNG, BMP, WE-BM ?
>

Will put it on my todo list.

travolter

23.02.2011, 13:00

@ FFK

Dugl viewer ver 0.2

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> here a newer version Dugl
> Viewer 0.2
>
> - Added displaying : page number / total pages.
> - Added sorting images files by name.
> - Added current picture smoothing with keyboard shortcut F5 (disabled by
> default).
> - Modified mouse default position to left, bottom.

tested the new version!

the smoothing blurs the image a lot. Some texts are not readable. A new resize interpolation mode would be better than this smooth function.

There is a little fix to do. The program sort images by name so perfect. The problem is that autoload feature only works with images with sequential numbers.

Example: I have a folder with :
cover.jpg
pic001.jpg
pic002.jpg

If I start viewing the images from "cover.jpg".. pic001.jpg is lot loaded automatically.

Just change the code and set the program to load always "the next image of current folder, from current file position".. (not only the ones that have sequential numbers) :)

FFK

24.02.2011, 01:25

@ travolter

Dugl viewer ver 0.2

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>
> tested the new version!

What about speed of scrolling and loading pictures ?

>
> the smoothing blurs the image a lot. Some texts are not readable. A new
> resize interpolation mode would be better than this smooth function.
>

Current smoothing is very useful only on the case of up sizing/scaling
[image]

You can see in this screenshot where the upper picture is smoothed.

> There is a little fix to do. The program sort images by name so perfect.
> The problem is that autoload feature only works with images with sequential
> numbers.
>
> Example: I have a folder with :
> cover.jpg
> pic001.jpg
> pic002.jpg

I'm thinking about an additif open mode.
for example you push Ctrl+F3, the opened image will be added to current list of images. Which mean on your example, that you will push F3, open "cover.jpg" then push Ctrl+F3 open "pic*.jpg".

DOS386

24.02.2011, 08:18

@ FFK

Dugl viewer ver 0.2

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> feature to use a single key to scroll down & load next pic while reading comics

It should be optional ;-)

> Will study if it's possible to make a correction without losing speed.

NO. The correct way is ways more expensive. :-(

> Why sorting by EXT if we already open files with same EXT ?

When you add support for other types ;-)

> Will put default position on CFG file.

COOL. And the "arrow-down" please too.

> > Support for PNG, BMP, WE-BM ?
> Will put it on my todo list.

COOL. :-)

Here: [image]

And NO, NCONVERT 5.80 can't decode ^^^ WE-BP yet :-(

Did you get mail ?

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travolter

24.02.2011, 10:28
(edited by travolter, 24.02.2011, 11:14)

@ FFK

Dugl viewer ver 0.2

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> >
> > tested the new version!
>
> What about speed of scrolling and loading pictures ?

Oh sorry.. forgot to coment ;) the scrolling speed is the same. The image only need an extra second to render when smooth option is on

> >
> > the smoothing blurs the image a lot. Some texts are not readable. A new
> > resize interpolation mode would be better than this smooth function.
> >
>
> Current smoothing is very useful only on the case of up sizing/scaling
> [image]

If its posible for you try other interpolation resize mode.. I pasted some pics as example. Lanczos and spline maybe need to much cpu power.. but there are other modes that are more cpu light and give nice results.

[image]
[image]
[image]
[image]

(dont compare your posted images with mines... because your ones are smaller... check how image change between point and other resizers)

Anyway Ill wait to the implementation of the new resolution modes into the program.. Currently Im using 640x480 in a 7,1 '' tiny screen.... maybe using full native res 800x480 the text can be readable with the current smooth feature

FFK

26.02.2011, 18:17

@ travolter

Dugl viewer ver 0.3

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> Anyway Ill wait to the implementation of the new resolution modes into the
> program.. Currently Im using 640x480 in a 7,1 '' tiny screen.... maybe
> using full native res 800x480 the text can be readable with the current
> smooth feature

Hi,

dugl viewer ver 0.3
- Added support for a config file "duglview.cfg".
- Modified main window label to display current opened file name.
- Modified auto load files keyboard shortcut to Alt+F3 or Alt+mouse click open button.
- Added support for 24/8bpp uncompressed BMP image format.
- Added support for PCX 8bpp image format
- Added support for GIF 8bpp not interlaced image format.

DUGL viewer 0.3 <direct/dos compatible link>
DUGL Viewer 0.3 <mediafire>

You have to change the [VideoMode] section data to : 800, 480
and [MousePosition] section data to : 0.0, 0.0 - to hide mouse pointer

@DOS386

You have to change both section [KeyBWaitPageUP] and [KeyBWaitPageDOWN] data to : 0, 0.0 - to disable the feature of moving to next/previous page keeping to down/up keyboard button down.

travolter

26.02.2011, 20:16

@ FFK

Dugl viewer ver 0.3

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> dugl viewer ver 0.3
:)

> - Added support for a config file "duglview.cfg".

tested there my 800x480 and its working!!! thanks pal.. really few image viewers support that rare resolution ;)

> - Modified main window label to display current opened file name.
> - Modified auto load files keyboard shortcut to Alt+F3 or Alt+mouse click
> open button.

I think that autoload files should be default mode. Pressing open dialog for each file is tedious. Much easier scroll down the images to watch them all

What about implement a file browser when program start? Some file browser where you just select file and click to load.

> - Added support for 24/8bpp uncompressed BMP image format.
> - Added support for PCX 8bpp image format
> - Added support for GIF 8bpp not interlaced image format.

I havent tested these new formats.. here all jpg.

About color bits? The program is using 8bits/16/24 mode? I notice in some pic some rare colours...maybe 8bit palette

> You have to change the [VideoMode] section data to : 800, 480
> and [MousePosition] section data to : 0.0, 0.0 - to hide mouse pointer

mouse hidden! ;) now waiting for full screen

About the smooth filter I tested with max resolution of my screen 800x480 and image very blurry.. so its hard to read texts. Maybe this option is better to view simple images.. and maybe some new interpolation mode needed.

Btw the program is being very very usable!! Now Im ready to delete Sea and rest of viewers that I had in DOS. Fit to width and editable screen resolution is rarely implemented

FFK

27.02.2011, 01:07

@ travolter

Dugl viewer ver 0.3

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> > dugl viewer ver 0.3
> :)
>
>
> I think that autoload files should be default mode. Pressing open dialog
> for each file is tedious. Much easier scroll down the images to watch them
> all

So this is an another parameter to put into the config file :-)
But I think that for a general image viewer it's more common to load only the choosed file, not the numerical series.

>
> What about implement a file browser when program start? Some file browser
> where you just select file and click to load.

You mean displaying open file dialog at start-up ?

>
> I havent tested these new formats.. here all jpg.

It's a small attempt to make the viewer more useful for other poeple.
Waiting for other file formats like png ..

>
> About color bits? The program is using 8bits/16/24 mode? I notice in some
> pic some rare colours...maybe 8bit palette
>

I'm using 16bits mode (DUGL support only 8bits and 16bits modes). Enough good for most usage, and keep the good balance between speed and quality.

>
> About the smooth filter I tested with max resolution of my screen 800x480
> and image very blurry.. so its hard to read texts. Maybe this option is
> better to view simple images.. and maybe some new interpolation mode
> needed.

If the image become very blurry after the filter, then your are doing a down resizing. In this case, yes, we need another interpolation mode.

>
> Btw the program is being very very usable!! Now Im ready to delete Sea and
> rest of viewers that I had in DOS. Fit to width and editable screen
> resolution is rarely implemented

Good :-) I hope that more poeple will also find it useful, and I think now that it's ready to be announced as a new small DOS utility.

travolter

27.02.2011, 02:48
(edited by travolter, 27.02.2011, 13:28)

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> So this is an another parameter to put into the config file :-)
> But I think that for a general image viewer it's more common to load only
> the choosed file, not the numerical series.

I would forgot the numerical series.. and do like other image viewers do: select an initial image and display it. If you press next (down arrow here) the following image with next name is loaded and so on.
( assuming that files are sort by name now, the autoload sequential number is not necessary)

> You mean displaying open file dialog at start-up ?

a full screen browser like SEA or QV, where you move cursor con up/down arrows and enter to view the pic ( more simple than current load box)

> Good :-) I hope that more people will also find it useful, and I think now
> that it's ready to be announced as a new small DOS utility.

you can implement an key to change mode
- fit to width,
or
-zoom/shrink to fit window
so the program can be used as comic reader or traditional image viewer

FFK

06.03.2011, 12:14

@ travolter

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>
> a full screen browser like SEA or QV, where you move cursor con up/down
> arrows and enter to view the pic ( more simple than current load box)
>

Currently DUGL Plus GUI do not have such compenent, so require time to develop.

> you can implement an key to change mode
> - fit to width,
> or
> -zoom/shrink to fit window
> so the program can be used as comic reader or traditional image viewer

Yes, I will see what I can do.

DOS386

02.03.2011, 05:03

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> - Added support for 24/8bpp uncompressed BMP image format.
> - Added support for PCX 8bpp image format
> - Added support for GIF 8bpp not interlaced image format.

COOL, I'll test (just PNG is missing) :-)

> DUGL viewer 0.3
> <direct/dos compatible link>

:-)

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DOS386

05.03.2011, 10:23

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> COOL, I'll test

Works. :-)

Issues:

- Multiple masx (known from DUGL PLAYER)
- Previous/Next doesn't work (???)
- Ext-Name makes sense now ;-)
- Separate files (known from DUGL PLAYER)
- [sugg] ZOOM control based on width:
- - Never zoom (needs horizontal scrolling)
- - Zoom down if > , keep and center if <= (make this default)
- - Zoom down if > , keep and center if 1 >= x >= 0.9 , zoom up if < 0.9
- - Always zoom if <>, keep if =

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the following string:*** This is Copyright 1983 Microsoft ***

FFK

06.03.2011, 12:21

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> > COOL, I'll test
>
> Works. :-)
>
> Issues:
>
> - Multiple masx (known from DUGL PLAYER)
> - Previous/Next doesn't work (???)

For version 0.3 you need to load by pressing Alt+F3 to enable loading numerical series. else only the choosed file picture will be loaded.

> - Ext-Name makes sense now ;-)

Yes but if we have multiple masx :-(

> - Separate files (known from DUGL PLAYER)

Yes this is a little project to make a DAT file like allegro, containing every thing.

> - [sugg] ZOOM control based on width:
> - - Never zoom (needs horizontal scrolling)
> - - Zoom down if > , keep and center if <= (make this default)
> - - Always zoom if <>, keep if =
> - - Zoom down if > , keep and center if 1 >= x >= 0.9 , zoom up if < 0.9

Yes. On todo list :-)

travolter 08.03.2011, 12:15 @ FFK	Dugl viewer ver 0.3 \| PNG WE-BP MASX ... prev/next Post reply
	> > > COOL, I'll test > > > > Works. > > > > Issues: > > > > - Multiple masx (known from DUGL PLAYER) > > - Previous/Next doesn't work (???) > > For version 0.3 you need to load by pressing Alt+F3 to enable loading > numerical series. else only the choosed file picture will be loaded. Previous/Next by default would be best way. Press multiple keys to just load pics is a bit tedious

FFK

22.02.2011, 00:54

@ travolter

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> wow!! amazing pal!!!
>
> Im totally in love with that feature of load next/previous page maintaining
> arrow keys pressed ;P all image viewers/readers should include that.
>

Thanks. I'm glad :-)

> the reader is totally usable.. the images loads amazingly fast (faster than
> win95 viewers that I was using until now).. some improvements that could
> be done:
>
> - could be possible 800x480 resolution? (personal request!!!) I have
> noticed that this res is available in other DOS programs. Anyway more
> resolutions for other people with other screens sizes would be nice.
>

I will add a CFG file where we can configure the wished graphic resolution

> - full screen (maybe better full by default)
>

I understand, going full screen just after opening. on queue ...

> - auto hide the mouse cursor (no mouse here.. and its always centered into
> the screen)
>

I checked the sources, and the mouse pointer will be displayed only if a mouse is installed ?!
If you are using DUGL Viewer with windows 95, then I guess it will always enable a mouse API. Solution will be to use it under plane DOS, or that I change default mouse pointer postion to bottom of the screen.

> This image viewer is unique with this autoload feature!!! Probably no other
> comic reader is available into DOS.. so you filled a hole in the DOS
> programs!!
> Keep the good job pal!
>

Great :-)

>
> Edit.- I dont know if that will be complicated.. the last feature that
> would be need a comic reader for dos is support to load images included
> into.rar and .zip files.
> Today the digital comics are released into .cbr and .cbz files (rar and zip
> files renamed). Anyway that feature is useful for anyone that store images
> into zips/rars

If there is a ready DJGPP library that allow me to list/access files inside a zip/rar file then this feature won't be hard to add.

Zyzzle

18.02.2011, 00:48

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I like Pixel for DOS... It is very complete, has resize, lots of other 'professional' functions. Max memory supported is only 128 / 192 MB + 128 MB (?) virtual memory which can be set to RAMDISK. The config file needs to be hacked in order to get > 64 MB though. The "experimental" DOS port here:

http:/ut/www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=4

It buggy and crippled - can't save files (needs a serial / key), and that port isn't supported, so there's no way to purchase it. I haven't been successful in hacking it either.

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