DOS ain't dead - using links for dos better with speech?

Karen

29.11.2019, 21:50

using links for dos better with speech? (Users)

Greetings folks,
I admit this question is a tad unique. Downloaded the .exe file for
links referenced in an earlier thread, the most recent from August, that
incorporates Javascript.
while I do have the program basically running, including activating the
numbered links feature, I do have an additional problem.
I am a screen reader user, in some programs, sshdos for example, there is
an option that helps the program interact better with speech. Writing
to the screen in a fashion that allows things to simply be spoken. its
the -b option in sshdos. although I have seen it described as writing to
the BIOS in other DOS programs. Any idea what this option is in links?
I am feeling sure it exists, because when I use links in other settings
my goal is accomplished.
Given there is an option -html-numbered-links 1 that provides another
accessibility solution, I am hopeful.
Ideas?

KormaX

03.12.2019, 22:32

@ Karen

using links for dos better with speech?

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Unfortunately I cannot answer your question, what's more, I have my own question: where did you get a Links version with JS support? I only have 2.15 with JS support Mikulaš compiled for me, and I don't want to bother him with this for every version, but I myself didn't have enough time to collect all the rewuired libraries for DOS, so I am still unable to compile Links for DOS myself. I would like the latest version with JS.

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DOS isn't about why. It's about why not.

Karen

06.12.2019, 01:02

@ KormaX

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Well, I will tell you what I did. still, given what you say here, it
might not be complete. How do you reach Mikula, as I truly need an
answer to my question, and the inclusion of things like a braille
terminal make little sense, unless I am missing items as well.
I searched for "links for dos," in this forum. One post indicated
the update, providing a link to an ftp site. on that site are two
files both dated in Aug that are executables, a full edition of
links, and a text edition without Javascript. I simply got both
files. Given the javascr*** edition seeks a .cfg file that is not
included, while still running due to my internet connection
incorporating dhtp, the file I got does not include all of the
libraries, a surprise as those installing the browser for the first
time need them. At the very least there should be a copy distributed
compiled with all one needs to run the browser at its best.
Kare

KormaX

08.12.2019, 10:39

@ Karen

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I just sent a mail to his public e-mail. It is somewhere on his site available from Links as well. First I asked for a JS-enabled version. He did not answer instantly, but some time later he sent me an executable. Later I asked for an option to load and save the clipboard in order to make communication between Links and other DOS programs possible. He did it in the next version even added the Hungarian translation himself. He told me how to edit the language files, and how can I add new gliphs, so I can compile executables with full Unicode fonts. I didn't yet because I must install a lot of libraries first. He doesn't normally reply instantly, but does eventually. The idea of migrating cookies from one browser to another is my idea, then he told me it should work theoretically, in the HTTP options, you should type the cookie (or load from a file to clipboard and paste it) as an extra header string. You can get a cookie from a browser that can export them, such as Internet Explorer or I think Firefox.

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DOS isn't about why. It's about why not.

RayeR

CZ,
11.12.2019, 04:55

@ KormaX

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When you are in contact with him, you may ask for mouse wheel support too (via ctmouse API)...

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DOS gives me freedom to unlimited HW access.

KormaX

13.12.2019, 13:49

@ RayeR

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> When you are in contact with him, you may ask for mouse wheel support too
> (via ctmouse API)...

AFAIK, Links' DOS versions use a built-in mouse driver, so the wheel support should be included. I also can't test this function as my motherboard has only USB, and the wheel is not translated to PS/2 by the CSM. There are many things that would be useful though. For example a DOS Gateway Interface, instead of which I currently use the magnet: protocol. Also an option to load external fonts would be great, but it's entirely out of concept for Mikulaš, I think. Installing the required packages to compile it on DOS is a pain in the a... and still not did that. What's more, the glyphs must be provided as individual pixels to extend the built-in fonts, and I don't have a good method to mass-convert unicode fonts to pictures. Although I'll ask him about the wheel support. :)

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DOS isn't about why. It's about why not.

Karen

28.12.2019, 01:10

@ KormaX

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hi,
referencing two posts in my answer.
First, I will make a guess that you do not understand what it means
navigating with speech, by which I mean a screen reader.
While other populations do this too, those with some learning
disabilities for example, in my case, it means that I cannot use a
mouse...at all
One needs more vision then I have to manipulate one, and generally
screen readers do not require them. some do not even need a monitor.
therefore, I am at a loss as to what connection asking for mouse
functions has to my use of Links with speech, and without vision.
As for the basic HTML gmail solution you suggest, exporting cookies
from another browser to use with links for dos, may I ask where you
found a DOS edition of Firefox or explorer?
This is a DOS forum after all, so I suppose your solution has
grounding in dOs tools only?
Lastly, and I will raise this question with him, given the importance
of cookies at some major sites, amazon for example, why does Links
For Dos not have a way to save them?
That they disappear sort of makes establishing a regular presence
with your browser and a place where you do business sort of a
problem. I personally have access to LINKS, on a Ubuntu shell service,
and recall a cookie method of saving in that edition...but may be
wrong. so, ask about your own mouse wheel, I would rather have
cookies, and know why there is a braille terminal in the configuration
area along with how that relates to speech, than use a mouse.

> When you are in contact with him, you may ask for mouse wheel
support > too
> > (via ctmouse API)...
>
> AFAIK, Links' DOS versions use a built-in mouse driver, so the wheel
> support should be included. I also can't test this function as my
> motherboard has only USB, and the wheel is not translated to PS/2 by
the > CSM. There are many things that would be useful though. For
example a DOS > Gateway Interface, instead of which I currently use
the magnet: protocol. > Also an option to load external fonts would be
great, but it's entirely out > of concept for Mikulas, I think.
Installing the required packages to > compile it on DOS is a pain in
the a... and still not did that. What's > more, the glyphs must be
provided as individual pixels to extend the > built-in fonts, and I
don't have a good method to mass-convert unicode > fonts to pictures.
Although I'll ask him about the wheel support. :)

david 05.02.2020, 16:41 @ Karen	using links for dos better with speech? Post reply
	Do You have new GIT for repositiry of links supported JS ??? Thanks david