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Zyzzle 19.09.2021, 22:24 @ roytam	Font Loader for 8x8, 8x14, 8x16? Post reply
	> I wonder if there is a program that works like fix8x14, but changes all 3 > fonts, i.e. 8x8, 8x14, 8x16, and also changes current font (something like > loadfont.asm)? I would like to know this as well. There are various TSRs that change the current 9x16 VGA font (NovaFont, PC Magazine font TSR, and others), but no single TSR that changes all 4 fonts at once.

DosWorld

20.09.2021, 04:44

@ roytam

Font Loader for 8x8, 8x14, 8x16?

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> I wonder if there is a program that works like fix8x14, but changes all 3
> fonts, i.e. 8x8, 8x14, 8x16, and also changes current font (something like
> loadfont.asm)?

In my memory, most correct program which do font changing on-fly is keyrus (works in 99% case text and graphics modes, may be excluding something custom like 320*240). Source code you can find here.

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Make DOS great again!

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Zyzzle

22.09.2021, 07:08

@ DosWorld

Font Loader for 8x8, 8x14, 8x16?

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> > I wonder if there is a program that works like fix8x14, but changes all
> 3
> > fonts, i.e. 8x8, 8x14, 8x16, and also changes current font (something
> like
> > loadfont.asm)?
>
> In my memory, most correct program which do font changing on-fly is
> keyrus (works in 99% case
> text and graphics modes, may be excluding something custom like 320*240).
> Source code you can find
> here.

Yes, thanks very much. This keyrus TSR works very well for all 3 fonts at once, even for custom modes like 8x19. The best possibility is to replace the Russian fonts embedded in the .com file with the 8x8, 8x14, and 8x16 DOS fonts of your choice. A custom .FNT file can also be loaded. Keyrus seems to be the most robust font / keyboard TSR I've ever seen.

DosWorld

22.09.2021, 21:30
(edited by DosWorld, 22.09.2021, 22:38)

@ Zyzzle

Font Loader for 8x8, 8x14, 8x16?

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> Yes, thanks very much. This keyrus TSR works very well for all 3 fonts at
> once, even for custom modes like 8x19. The best possibility is to replace
> the Russian fonts embedded in the .com file with the 8x8, 8x14, and 8x16
> DOS fonts of your choice. A custom .FNT file can also be loaded. Keyrus
> seems to be the most robust font / keyboard TSR I've ever seen.

Ok, if you find this tool usefull, next few note:

1. keyrus have font editor - you can make your fonts embedded into keyrus.com (without hex editing).
2. keyrus have configurator which save configuration into keyrus.com file. you can disable some features (like keyboard support) it will reduce TSR size in memory.

I not sure, but must be configurable for support any language/keyboard based on 8-bit char. Keyrus does not touch system codepage - this is story only about screen and keyboard.

Both this tool must be in distribution. If no, check 7.x version (i am use 7.x - enough stable, enough features).

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Make DOS great again!

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Zyzzle

24.09.2021, 00:59

@ DosWorld

Font Loader for 8x8, 8x14, 8x16?

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> > Yes, thanks very much. This keyrus TSR works very well for all 3 fonts
> at
> > once, even for custom modes like 8x19. The best possibility is to
> replace
> > the Russian fonts embedded in the .com file with the 8x8, 8x14, and 8x16
> > DOS fonts of your choice. A custom .FNT file can also be loaded. Keyrus
> > seems to be the most robust font / keyboard TSR I've ever seen.
>
> Ok, if you find this tool usefull, next few note:
>
> 1. keyrus have font editor - you can make your fonts embedded into
> keyrus.com (without hex editing).
> 2. keyrus have configurator which save configuration into keyrus.com file.
> you can disable some features (like keyboard support) it will reduce TSR
> size in memory.

I saw the font edit program, and it seems capable of saving a .fnt file, but I could not import it into the keyrus.com file. Maybe I missed option to do so? I had to do this manually by noting the hex offsets in that file and injecting and replacing the 8x16 russian DOS font embedded within the .com file. I also run the modified TSR file with options /keyboard=off and compress=on to save memory. It is a very ingenious idea to compress the fonts in memory! Using this keyrus TSR, I saved 4 or 5kb of low DOS memory over other similar TSRs and have now gotten rid of those entirely. Thank you again for mentioning this tool.

>
> I not sure, but must be configurable for support any language/keyboard
> based on 8-bit char. Keyrus does not touch system codepage - this is story
> only about screen and keyboard.
>
> Both this tool must be in distribution. If no, check 7.x version (i am use
> 7.x - enough stable, enough features).

8.x seems great for me... and anyway I could not find any 7.x version online. Where to find older versions of this tool?

DosWorld

25.09.2021, 18:41

@ Zyzzle

Font Loader for 8x8, 8x14, 8x16?

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> 8.x seems great for me... and anyway I could not find any 7.x version
> online. Where to find older versions of this tool?

http://www.softpanorama.org/People/Gurtyak/Programs/Keyrus/Keyrus73/keyrus73.zip

evafont - font editor
setup,exe - "configurator".

PS: I am check setup - UI in russian. :(
PPS: Sorry, for short answer, now, I am on vacation and out of city.

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Make DOS great again!

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roytam

23.09.2021, 06:21

@ DosWorld

Font Loader for 8x8, 8x14, 8x16?

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> > I wonder if there is a program that works like fix8x14, but changes all
> 3
> > fonts, i.e. 8x8, 8x14, 8x16, and also changes current font (something
> like
> > loadfont.asm)?
>
> In my memory, most correct program which do font changing on-fly is
> keyrus (works in 99% case
> text and graphics modes, may be excluding something custom like 320*240).
> Source code you can find
> here.

oh yeah, it does work. thanks.

NorbyDroid

30.09.2021, 21:42

@ roytam

Font Loader for 8x8, 8x14, 8x16?

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> I wonder if there is a program that works like fix8x14, but changes all 3
> fonts, i.e. 8x8, 8x14, 8x16, and also changes current font (something like
> loadfont.asm)?

Don’t know if this is what you are looking for, but there is a program from 1988 for DOS by Michael J. Mefford and Ziff Davis Communications called “FontEdit”. This program lets you create different size fonts as executables that you can run to change the font used in DOS as well as programs that uses the standard font (any programs that uses custom fonts will override the standard font).

I hope this is helpful.

roytam 19.09.2021, 17:35	Font Loader for 8x8, 8x14, 8x16? (Users) Post reply
	I wonder if there is a program that works like fix8x14, but changes all 3 fonts, i.e. 8x8, 8x14, 8x16, and also changes current font (something like loadfont.asm)?

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