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13.09.2008, 17:32
(edited by FFK, 13.09.2008, 18:57)
 

DUGL forum hosting :-( (Users)

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I lost DUGL forum hosting for more than a week now :-(
Some one can confirm me this ? maybe this a problem with my ISP
If so what would be the best free forum hosting ?
I found http://www.freeforums.org it seems to be very good but i don't want that he die after 2 years
rr

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13.09.2008, 19:21

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DUGL forum hosting :-(

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> I lost DUGL forum hosting for more than a week now :-(
> Some one can confirm me this ? maybe this a problem with my ISP
> If so what would be the best free forum hosting ?
> I found http://www.freeforums.org it seems to be very good but i don't
> want that he die after 2 years
Why not move DUGL to SourceForge.net, freshmeat.net (also a SourgeForge company), Savannah, or Google Code completely? They also provide forums or mailing lists.

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FFK

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14.09.2008, 18:28

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DUGL forum hosting :-(

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> Why not move DUGL to SourceForge.net,
> freshmeat.net (also a SourgeForge
> company), Savannah, or
> Google Code completely? They
> also provide forums or mailing lists.
I'm not sure but they seem to force the user to use a GPL, LGPL or free license.
And DUGL is free for non commercial use.
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14.09.2008, 19:57

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> And DUGL is free for non commercial use.
Are 5-10 bucks per month not affordable for a commercial product?

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FFK

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15.09.2008, 02:13

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> > And DUGL is free for non commercial use.
>
> Are 5-10 bucks per month not affordable for a commercial product?
DUGL isn't yet a commercial product.
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Berlin, Germany,
15.09.2008, 23:23

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> > > And DUGL is free for non commercial use.
> >
> > Are 5-10 bucks per month not affordable for a commercial product?
>
> DUGL isn't yet a commercial product.
It is, although you don't earn any money from it currently.

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DOS386

16.09.2008, 02:00

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> > DUGL isn't yet a commercial product.
> It is, although you don't earn any money from it currently.
Semi-commercial at best, in my definition a commercial product must:

- Be created for the primary purpose of making money (DUGL isn't)
and
- Require payment (or pull the money some other way) for private use (beyond some crippled/crappy/expiring "free" trials/demos) also (DUGL doesn't)

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FFK

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17.09.2008, 00:06

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> > DUGL isn't yet a commercial product.
>
> It is, although you don't earn any money from it currently.
Yes currently and with a little chance in the future. But i don't care as I'm doing this with my very little free time and for fun to increase the chance of DOS to come back as a true OS alternative for a daily use.
Commercial license is just because i think that it's very legitimate to ask money from some one who is going to use DUGL to earn money.
marcov

17.09.2008, 16:53

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(horribly selective quote follows)

> it's very legitimate to
> ask money from some one who is going to use DUGL to earn money.
Or to charge them money for hosting? :-)
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14.09.2008, 10:05

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I confirm it is broken. Maybe something with SQL database?
Here is the log:

mySQL query error: DELETE FROM DUGL_sessions WHERE running_time < 1221375809 or member_id='2'

mySQL error: Table 'DUGL_sessions' is marked as crashed and should be repaired
mySQL error code:
Date: Sunday 14th of September 2008 02:03:29 AM

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FFK

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14.09.2008, 18:37

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> I confirm it is broken. Maybe something with SQL database?
Yes it seems to be a problem with the SQL data base, but i have no access to it.

> Here is the log:
>
> mySQL query error: DELETE FROM DUGL_sessions WHERE running_time <
> 1221375809 or member_id='2'
>
> mySQL error: Table 'DUGL_sessions' is marked as crashed and should be
> repaired
> mySQL error code:
> Date: Sunday 14th of September 2008 02:03:29 AM

Ok thanks for testing
mr

15.09.2008, 00:22

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DUGL forum hosting :-(

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> I lost DUGL forum hosting for more than a week now :-(
> Some one can confirm me this ? maybe this a problem with my ISP
I can confirm this...

> I found http://www.freeforums.org it seems to be very good but i don't
> want that he die after 2 years
I don't recommend using it.

> If so what would be the best free forum hosting ?
Don't use forum hosting if you don't get access to the database. With database access you can use your backup and go somewhere else. Without database access you are addicted and like with drugs it's always bad to be addicted to someone.

Ask someone else for hosting.

Or get in contact with Nevasca project, http://nevasca.fbdevzone.com/forum/index.php
dunno if ftp access would go ok. If not the admin could set up a forum and also set up a script which uploads the database every day where you can login with password and download a backup.

Or try asking Robert Riebisch from bttr-software.de if he is willing to sponsor some free hosting.

Nothing guaranteed to work, but these are possibility with at least a chance for success.
FFK

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17.09.2008, 00:13

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DUGL forum hosting :-(

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> > If so what would be the best free forum hosting ?
>
> Don't use forum hosting if you don't get access to the database. With
> database access you can use your backup and go somewhere else. Without
> database access you are addicted and like with drugs it's always bad to be
> addicted to someone.
You are right, but i think that for a fun project i don't lose much to switch again to a new forum when the old forum is dead. Any way DUGL isn't yet a popular game library. So i think that i will switch with freeforums at least temporarly.

> Ask someone else for hosting.
>
> Or get in contact with Nevasca project,
> http://nevasca.fbdevzone.com/forum/index.php
> dunno if ftp access would go ok. If not the admin could set up a forum and
> also set up a script which uploads the database every day where you can
> login with password and download a backup.
>
> Or try asking Robert Riebisch from bttr-software.de if he is willing to
> sponsor some free hosting.
I really do prefer to don't bother others.
mr

18.09.2008, 12:20

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DUGL forum hosting :-(

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> You are right, but i think that for a fun project i don't lose much to
> switch again to a new forum when the old forum is dead.
Fun project? If it would be a fun project you could go Open Source and use some Open Source hoster.

> Any way DUGL isn't
> yet a popular game library. So i think that i will switch with freeforums
> at least temporarly.
Just to think about it, many people tend not to register at the new forums.

> I really do prefer to don't bother others.
Why not? Just ask and see whenever them like or not. It's just a question.

You can also set up your own forum on your own or free (ad free) webspace. Isn't that hard I think.
FFK

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19.09.2008, 00:14

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> Fun project? If it would be a fun project you could go Open Source and use
> some Open Source hoster.
Yes a fun project that tooked me the cumulated work of the equal of 3 years :-) I think i can't talk about a serious project when I'm doing it on my little free time.
I'm not yet convinced about open Sourcing the project.

> Just to think about it, many people tend not to register at the new
> forums.
Yes this is why I still keep hope that the forum will come back soon, I'm still waiting the answer from the support.
mr

21.09.2008, 13:42

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Little misunderstanding here...

You said before:

> You are right, but i think that for a fun project i don't lose much to
> switch again to a new forum when the old forum is dead. Any way DUGL isn't
> yet a popular game library. So i think that i will switch with freeforums
> at least temporarly.
Me later:

> > Fun project? If it would be a fun project you could go Open Source and
> use
> > some Open Source hoster.
Later you:

> Yes a fun project that tooked me the cumulated work of the equal of 3
> years :-) I think i can't talk about a serious project when I'm doing it
> on my little free time.
> I'm not yet convinced about open Sourcing the project.
So, imho the term "fun project" isn't the right one here. It's a real project for you, otherwise you would care less.

Not sure if I successfully said now what I wanted but nvm, the important point of mine has been discussed already.
DOS386

15.09.2008, 05:27

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DUGL forum hosting :-( NOT new

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> I lost DUGL forum hosting for more than a week now :-(
> Some one can confirm me this ?
It's dead ... but it already used to be several times ... and undied then ... so no final loss yet :-|

Free forums are usually crappy (see CC386 "forum" :-( ).

SF doesn't require GPL, but open source, so your closed source DUGL core doesn't qualify.

So we have to discuss here or at the forum of King Udo or ...

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DOS386

04.10.2008, 04:46

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DUGL new forum hosting :-(

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> I lost DUGL forum hosting for more than a week now

New forum ... but doesn't work ... can neither register nor post :-(

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FFK

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06.10.2008, 23:44

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DUGL new forum hosting :-(

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> > I lost DUGL forum hosting for more than a week now
>
> New forum ... but doesn't work ... can neither register nor post :-(
strange !! i tried with both ie 6 and fireFox 2.0.17 and both anonymous and registred posts are enabled and working :-(
Rugxulo

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10.10.2008, 05:42

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DUGL new forum hosting :-(

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> > > I lost DUGL forum hosting for more than a week now
> >
> > New forum ... but doesn't work ... can neither register nor post :-(
>
> strange !! i tried with both ie 6 and fireFox 2.0.17 and both anonymous
> and registred posts are enabled and working :-(
Call me crazy, but I suspect DOS386 is probably referring to other web browsers (in particular, DOS ones like Arachne).
DOS386

26.10.2008, 15:34

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> Call me crazy
Anyone can see the existing posts ? I can't ... JS is OFF :-P

http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/

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