DOS ain't dead - Plop boot manager (internal USB support)

RayeR

CZ,
20.07.2010, 03:01

Plop boot manager (internal USB support) (Users)

Do you know the Plop boot manager?
It's interesting that it contains built-in USB (OHCI/UHCI/EHCI) and CD-ROM driver so it let you boot from this media without BIOS support.

http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html

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Arjay 20.07.2010, 10:19 @ RayeR	Plop boot manager (internal USB support) Post reply
	> http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html The USB support is interesting. A key point from the website: "The Plop Boot Manager is not a Linux loader and cannot start Linux without LILO, GRUB, Syslinux and similar!

RayeR

CZ,
20.07.2010, 15:40

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> The USB support is interesting. A key point from the website:
> "The Plop Boot Manager is not a Linux loader and cannot start Linux
> without LILO, GRUB, Syslinux and similar!

I just wonder there's another USB implementation besides Bret's and Georg's, unfortunatelly no source (not needed by me but maybe it would helps Bret to implement EHCI).

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Arjay

20.07.2010, 17:16

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> I just wonder there's another USB implementation besides Bret's and Georg's
Indeed. Still the more the merrier.

> Georg's, unfortunatelly no source
Did you also see this post although USB a very basic level?

> (not needed by me but maybe it would helps Bret to implement EHCI).
There is some good EHCI info out there, so I guess as with all these things it comes down to time. I remember Linux taking ages (or it at least it seemed that way) to implement USB with a far large group of developers. Even then 2.5.2 etc seemed to take even longer to spread. Fortunately most Linux projects now support USB but I'm impressed with what Bret and Georg (and a few others) have achieved.

Rugxulo

Usono,
20.07.2010, 23:37

@ Arjay

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Yes, I've been using PLoP via floppy for a few months here since this P4 doesn't boot via USB. Works well! :-)

> > (not needed by me but maybe it would helps Bret to implement EHCI).
> There is some good EHCI
> info out there, so I guess as with all these things it comes down to
> time. I remember Linux taking ages (or it at least it seemed that way) to
> implement USB with a far large group of developers. Even then 2.5.2 etc
> seemed to take even longer to spread. Fortunately most Linux projects now
> support USB but I'm impressed with what Bret and Georg (and a few others)
> have achieved.

Hard to imagine Linux ever lacking drivers or developers for anything! Heck, they were (I think) the first to support USB 3.0 (which I don't even know if it's out yet). I still think there are too many (overlapping, esp. Ubuntu-based) Linux distributions.

RayeR

CZ,
21.07.2010, 16:14

@ Arjay

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> Did you also see
> this
> post although USB a very basic level?

Wow, cool! I admire this guys to do this in ASM, I would use C but then cannot win the lowest size of course :)

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RayeR

CZ,
22.07.2010, 23:26

@ RayeR

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> > Did you also see
> > this
> > post although USB a very basic level?
>
> Wow, cool! I admire this guys to do this in ASM, I would use C but then
> cannot win the lowest size of course :)

Hm, I tried but none of 3 progs works for me. It just hangs and don't display anything when plugging various USB devices :\

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dggionco Buenos Aires - Argentina, 24.05.2020, 14:36 @ RayeR	Plop boot manager (internal USB support) Post reply
	Plop Boot Manager Six (PBM6) - test release 20/Apr/2020: https://www.plop.at/en/pbm6/home.html