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Berlin, Germany,
29.11.2010, 22:01
 

ML1 compiler? (Miscellaneous)

Does anybody know what happened to the ML1 compiler or its author Steven D. Nichols? I'm getting "Site No Longer in Service".

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Usono,
30.11.2010, 00:58

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ML1 compiler?

No, it's been gone for quite a long time, no idea why. I've searched before, just did yet another quick search, nothing turns up. Very frustrating when things disappear with no known mirror. :-(

P.S. I might have a copy of it on my older HD, but I haven't checked lately.

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Usono,
01.12.2010, 05:47

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ML1 compiler?

> No, it's been gone for quite a long time, no idea why. I've searched
> before, just did yet another quick search, nothing turns up. Very
> frustrating when things disappear with no known mirror. :-(

Well, another search did find this:

http://www.forth.org/svfig/kk/01-2008.html

... which points to these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ml1
http://www.forth.org/svfig/kk/ml1smry.html

... and Wikipedia points here:

http://www.ml1.org.uk/

And the summary page gives two different emails (one obviously defunct, one may? still work). Shall we try contacting him and/or Bob Eager?

Arjay

01.12.2010, 19:11

@ Rugxulo
 

ML1 compiler?

Hi,
I realized Bob was UK based.... long story short I have dropped him an email (via another address) with a link to this forum will let you know the outcome.

See also Bob's TAVI website: http://www.tavi.co.uk/ps2pages/ http://www.tavi.co.uk/

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Usono,
01.12.2010, 21:50

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ML1 compiler?

> Hi,
> I realized Bob was UK based.... long story short I have dropped him an
> email (via another address) with a link to this forum will let you know the
> outcome.
>
> See also Bob's TAVI website: http://www.tavi.co.uk/ps2pages/
> http://www.tavi.co.uk/

The svpal.org email for Steve failed, and since ml1compiler.org is a bogus shell site, I don't think that email would work either. I guess SDN just disappeared (hopefully only temporarily). :-( I guess I could try plugging in that dumb (converted) external HD to find the archive, but it's yet another thing to mirror, sheesh, and I don't even grok it (yet)! ;-)

Arjay

03.12.2010, 20:44

@ Arjay
 

ML1 compiler is different to ML/1 (Macro Language/One)

Ok I've heard back from Bob. Firstly my apologies to Bob as I hadn't picked up that there was some confusion already on this thread between the ML/1 (Macro Language/One) and the ML1 compiler which existed at http://www.ml1compiler.org/

Bob has advised that they are entirely completely different things

Bob only maintains the official ML/1 (Macro Language/One) website which can be found at http://www.ml1.org.uk/

Archives of the http://www.ml1compiler.org/ (off-line at the time of writing) can be accessed via the following link: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.ml1compiler.org/

Sadly however it doesn't appear (from a very quick check) that any of the files are downloadable via archive.org's caches. Worth checking further.

As above I would recommend checking out Bob's excellent TAVI website:
http://www.tavi.co.uk/ps2pages/ (Bob's PS/2 + DOS pages)
http://www.tavi.co.uk/

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Usono,
03.12.2010, 21:50

@ Arjay
 

ML1 compiler is different to ML/1 (Macro Language/One)

> Bob has advised that they are entirely completely different things

I was afraid of that, but the Forth summary page lumped the Wikipedia article (re: Bob's) in with Steve's, and having not actually used either tool, I wasn't honestly sure. Oh well.

Arjay

04.12.2010, 17:03

@ Rugxulo
 

ML1 compiler is different to ML/1 (Macro Language/One)

> I was afraid of that, but the Forth summary page lumped the Wikipedia
> article (re: Bob's) in with Steve's,
Update from Bob: "Steve Jaffe is going to correct the forth.org page.

> and having not actually used either tool, I wasn't honestly sure. Oh well.
Likewise.

eager

Herne Bay, Kent, UK,
05.12.2010, 11:00

@ Rugxulo
 

ML1 compiler is different to ML/1 (Macro Language/One)

> > Bob has advised that they are entirely completely different
> things
>
> I was afraid of that, but the Forth summary page lumped the Wikipedia
> article (re: Bob's) in with Steve's, and having not actually used either
> tool, I wasn't honestly sure. Oh well.

And here is Bob!

I've been in contact with Dave Jaffe, and he's corrected the Forth summary page.

But I'll stick around as this forum looks interesting...:-)

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Berlin, Germany,
02.12.2010, 21:36

@ Rugxulo
 

ML1 compiler?

> P.S. I might have a copy of it on my older HD, but I haven't checked
> lately.

I have a copy of ml1lang3.zip from May 2007 here.

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Usono,
10.08.2011, 15:35

@ rr
 

ML1 compiler?

> > P.S. I might have a copy of it on my older HD, but I haven't checked
> > lately.
>
> I have a copy of ml1lang3.zip from May 2007 here.

I found my latest download on ye olde external hard drive: ML1.ZIP

I haven't tested it, but I wonder if it's latest (older? newer?) than yours, rr. But anyways, something is better than nothing! Maybe it should be mirrored to iBiblio (but dunno license, too lazy to check right now, heh).

EDIT: Here's what mine contains (sounds older than yours, but who knows):


Archive:  ML1.ZIP
 Length   Method    Size  Cmpr    Date    Time   CRC-32   Name
--------  ------  ------- ---- ---------- ----- --------  ----
    6064  Defl:X     5896   3% 2007-08-09 00:21 1b0fce11  macfix1.zip
 1040898  Defl:X  1020777   2% 2007-07-11 12:15 c7ae54db  ml1lang2.zip
--------          -------  ---                            -------
 1046962          1026673   2%                            2 files

Arjay

04.12.2010, 19:35

@ rr
 

ML1 compiler? Site No Longer in Service/recent whois change

RR > I'm getting "Site No Longer in Service".

From the recent WHOIS record updates - it looks like the site has just been renewed (moved?):

Created On:29-Nov-2006 20:06:50 UTC
Last Updated On:30-Nov-2010 09:56:13 UTC
Expiration Date:29-Nov-2011 20:06:50 UTC


Note: There is still a link to the ml1compiler.org on the BTTR links page.

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Usono,
30.11.2016, 02:27

@ rr
 

ML1 compiler?

> Does anybody know what happened to the ML1
> compiler or its author Steven D. Nichols? I'm getting "Site No Longer
> in Service".

news://comp.os.msdos.programmer (Nov 28)
"ML1 Macro Compiler 'www.ml1compiler.org'"

> ML1 is a free non-GNU macro cross compiler which runs on DOS.
> It isn't the ML/1 macro language. The language it processes is
> user definable. Runtime ML1 (The included demo language) creates
> 16 bit DOS programs. The compiler includes a user programmable
> optimizer and expression processor. Posted on the website are
> business and other applications written in ML1, some include
> sourcecode. If this sounds interesting, help yourself.

www.ml1compiler.org

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Usono,
18.01.2018, 11:27

@ Rugxulo
 

ML1 compiler?

news://comp.os.msdos.programmer (Jan. 13)
"www.ml1compiler.org"

> I just uploaded the latest version of the ML1 compiler to
> www.ml1compiler.org.
> ML1 (not the ml/1 of the 60's) is a macro driven cross compiler
> which is itself written in ML1. It includes an extensive library
> and outputs assembly language. Runtime ML1 is a macro set that
> compiles for DOS to ASM which is assembled by the NASM assembler.
> ML1 doesn't require you to share your sourcecode.
> Features include a programmable optimizer and expression processor.
> Scripts control how the compiler generates code.
> Steve

The website itself says:

> The latest version of the ML1 compiler was posted on: 01/03/2018
> and represents 10 years worth of upgrades.

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