Pravetz-16, etc. (Miscellaneous)
> Socialist societies don't work - and they leech off the success of "capitalist society".
I don't know what is "leech off", but socialist societies did work great for many decades and could continue to work, not only in Bulgaria but also in many other countries. The still work in some countries, with the due reforms. For the first time in human history, there was no hunger, no unemployment, no fear for tomorrow. But we allowed some traitors to climb to the top and they betrayed us.
> That's why you have "LZ-DOS" and "Pravetz-16" - both of which are
> Microsoft software renamed. Hell, "Pravetz-16" still has the Microsoft
> Copyright clause in it, it's more obvious than LZ-DOS.
Pravetz-16 is a computer, not a program. If you mean the P16DOS Assembler, the Microsoft copyright notice there is from the run-time library of the Microsoft C compiler, which was used to compile the executable file, and is by no means an indication that the program itself was written by Micrisoft. You should have known this if you've worked with this compiler. In general, most compilers' run-time libraries leave their "stamp" in the executable file.
> As far as the loader goes - you can't just copy/paste a loader built into
> the MS-DOS kernel into your own independent kernel. It's a part of the
> kernel that was stolen. Who cares if the rest is stolen?
First, let me repeat that I don't accept the word "stolen" to be applied for software. Second, the loader is just the second part of the boot record and doesn't do anything special. So it's possible to "inject" it into the kernel.
> If you get a car named the "BulgariaCar" with the decals removed and the
> serial numbers filed off that says its 100% made in Bulgaria and you open
> up and find the engine has "Honda" written on it -- there's no need to
> prove anything else. You've already proven it was a lie.
There is no car or any other machine completely made in a particular country anymore. For example, the aforementioned Pravetz-16 was made in Bulgaria, but many parts were made in the USSR and other countries, some even imported from the West, circumventing your embargoes. So we can say "assembled in Bulgaria" but not really "100% made in Bulgaria". When you see a label "made in XYZ" on any machine, you surely know that it really means "assembled in XYZ" instead. Anyway, nowadays everything is made in China, and Bulgaria missed its chance.
Complete thread:
- LZ-DOS 7.1 & booting previous DOS version - RayeR, 19.11.2007, 10:43 (Miscellaneous)
- LZ-DOS 7.1 & booting previous DOS version - sol, 19.11.2007, 17:56
- LZ-DOS 7.1 & booting previous DOS version - sol, 19.11.2007, 17:59
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 19.11.2007, 19:05
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - Steve, 19.11.2007, 19:36
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 19.11.2007, 20:11
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - Steve, 20.11.2007, 18:29
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 19.11.2007, 20:11
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 20:06
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 19.11.2007, 20:24
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 20:26
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 19.11.2007, 20:38
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 20:45
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 19.11.2007, 20:49
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 21:32
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 21:39
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 21:55
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 21:58
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 22:00
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 20.11.2007, 07:35
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 20.11.2007, 08:13
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 20.11.2007, 09:43
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - RayeR, 20.11.2007, 12:52
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 20.11.2007, 13:25
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - RayeR, 20.11.2007, 14:51
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 20.11.2007, 15:28
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - RayeR, 20.11.2007, 18:15
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 20.11.2007, 19:04
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 20.11.2007, 19:09
- SOL comes from StoOL-pigeon - lucho, 20.11.2007, 19:54
- SOL comes from StoOL-pigeon - sol, 20.11.2007, 20:22
- "Forking" is much worse than copying - lucho, 21.11.2007, 11:00
- SOL comes from StoOL-pigeon - sol, 20.11.2007, 20:22
- SOL comes from StoOL-pigeon - lucho, 20.11.2007, 19:54
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 20.11.2007, 19:30
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 20.11.2007, 19:34
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - RayeR, 20.11.2007, 19:51
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 21.11.2007, 00:36
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 21.11.2007, 10:32
- LZ-DOS 7.1 *IS* MSDOS 7.1 - tom, 22.11.2007, 12:39
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 21.11.2007, 10:32
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 21.11.2007, 00:36
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - RayeR, 20.11.2007, 19:51
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 20.11.2007, 19:34
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 20.11.2007, 19:09
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 20.11.2007, 15:28
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - RayeR, 20.11.2007, 14:51
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - Rugxulo, 22.11.2007, 16:58
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - rr, 22.11.2007, 21:28
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 20.11.2007, 13:25
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - RayeR, 20.11.2007, 12:52
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 20.11.2007, 09:43
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 20.11.2007, 08:13
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 20.11.2007, 07:35
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 22:00
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 21:58
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 21:55
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 21:39
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 21:32
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 19.11.2007, 20:49
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 20:45
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 19.11.2007, 20:38
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 20:26
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - rr, 20.11.2007, 10:58
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 20.11.2007, 12:45
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 19.11.2007, 20:24
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 20:10
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 19.11.2007, 20:33
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 20:37
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 19.11.2007, 20:46
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - Rugxulo, 20.11.2007, 00:07
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - lucho, 20.11.2007, 07:46
- I apologize. - Japheth, 20.11.2007, 12:01
- I apologize. - lucho, 20.11.2007, 12:49
- anger shortens one's life - Rugxulo, 21.11.2007, 09:28
- anger shortens one's life - lucho, 21.11.2007, 10:03
- anger shortens one's life - Japheth, 21.11.2007, 10:09
- anger shortens one's life - Rugxulo, 21.11.2007, 09:28
- I apologize. - lucho, 20.11.2007, 12:49
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - Rugxulo, 21.11.2007, 09:25
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - lucho, 21.11.2007, 12:10
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - Steve, 21.11.2007, 12:32
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - lucho, 21.11.2007, 12:38
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - Steve, 21.11.2007, 13:17
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - lucho, 21.11.2007, 13:22
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - Steve, 21.11.2007, 13:17
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - lucho, 21.11.2007, 12:38
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - Rugxulo, 21.11.2007, 12:46
- Useless to argue - Japheth, 21.11.2007, 13:11
- Useless to argue - lucho, 21.11.2007, 13:17
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - lucho, 21.11.2007, 13:12
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - sol, 21.11.2007, 16:29
- Pravetz-16, etc. - lucho, 21.11.2007, 18:20
- Pravetz-16, etc. - RayeR, 21.11.2007, 18:45
- Pravetz-16, etc. - Steve, 22.11.2007, 05:35
- Pravetz-16, etc. - lucho, 21.11.2007, 18:20
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - sol, 21.11.2007, 16:29
- Useless to argue - Japheth, 21.11.2007, 13:11
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - Steve, 21.11.2007, 12:32
- Saul Hudson -- nice guy - Rugxulo, 21.11.2007, 13:02
- Book author? - lucho, 21.11.2007, 13:26
- Book author? - Rugxulo, 22.11.2007, 14:59
- Book author? - lucho, 21.11.2007, 13:26
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - lucho, 21.11.2007, 12:10
- I apologize. - Japheth, 20.11.2007, 12:01
- About the Best Kept Top Secret of this forum, again - lucho, 20.11.2007, 07:46
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - sol, 19.11.2007, 20:37
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 19.11.2007, 20:33
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - Steve, 19.11.2007, 19:36
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 19.11.2007, 19:05
- LZ-DOS 7.1 & booting previous DOS version - Japheth, 19.11.2007, 22:41
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 20.11.2007, 08:06
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - Japheth, 20.11.2007, 08:57
- The pot calls the kettle black - lucho, 20.11.2007, 09:26
- The pot calls the kettle black - Japheth, 20.11.2007, 10:22
- The pot calls the kettle black - lucho, 20.11.2007, 13:18
- "Five of Good" - agreed - Japheth, 20.11.2007, 14:05
- The pot calls the kettle black - Rugxulo, 21.11.2007, 09:43
- Depression - lucho, 21.11.2007, 10:18
- The pot calls the kettle black - Japheth, 21.11.2007, 10:19
- The pot calls the kettle black - lucho, 21.11.2007, 10:25
- The pot calls the kettle black - Japheth, 21.11.2007, 10:42
- Udo confirmed it was you - lucho, 21.11.2007, 11:05
- The FOG is speaking - Japheth, 21.11.2007, 12:43
- The FOG is speaking - Steve, 21.11.2007, 13:28
- Five of Good vs. Gang of Four - lucho, 21.11.2007, 13:42
- 2 innocent questions - Japheth, 21.11.2007, 14:05
- 2 innocent questions - lucho, 21.11.2007, 14:44
- 2 innocent questions - Steve, 21.11.2007, 14:56
- 2 innocent questions - lucho, 21.11.2007, 15:34
- None selected - Japheth, 21.11.2007, 17:45
- None selected - Steve, 21.11.2007, 17:58
- None selected - Japheth, 21.11.2007, 17:45
- 2 innocent questions - lucho, 21.11.2007, 15:34
- ... the game must go on ... - Japheth, 21.11.2007, 15:38
- ... the game must go on ... - Matjaz, 21.11.2007, 19:14
- A small riddle - Japheth, 21.11.2007, 19:39
- ... the game must go on ... - Matjaz, 21.11.2007, 19:14
- 2 innocent questions - Steve, 21.11.2007, 14:56
- 2 innocent questions - lucho, 21.11.2007, 14:44
- 2 innocent questions - Japheth, 21.11.2007, 14:05
- The FOG is speaking - Japheth, 21.11.2007, 12:43
- Udo confirmed it was you - lucho, 21.11.2007, 11:05
- a one man play ... no, not about my hooha - Rugxulo, 21.11.2007, 10:51
- The pot calls the kettle black - Japheth, 21.11.2007, 10:42
- The pot calls the kettle black - lucho, 21.11.2007, 10:25
- The pot calls the kettle black - lucho, 20.11.2007, 13:18
- The pot calls the kettle black - Japheth, 20.11.2007, 10:22
- The pot calls the kettle black - lucho, 20.11.2007, 09:26
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - Japheth, 20.11.2007, 08:57
- LZ-DOS 7.1 - lucho, 20.11.2007, 08:06
- LZ-DOS 7.1 & booting previous DOS version - sol, 19.11.2007, 17:59
- LZ-DOS 7.1 & booting previous DOS version - rr, 20.11.2007, 11:24
- LZ-DOS 7.1 & booting previous DOS version - RayeR, 20.11.2007, 12:07
- LZ-DOS 7.1 & booting previous DOS version - lucho, 20.11.2007, 13:27
- LZ-DOS 7.1 & booting previous DOS version - Rugxulo, 21.11.2007, 09:15
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- Boot managers, Vista - Rugxulo, 21.11.2007, 09:57
- METAKERN by Eric Auer - lucho, 21.11.2007, 12:46
- OS boot managers -- comparison requested - Rugxulo, 21.11.2007, 12:57
- OS boot managers -- comparison requested - lucho, 21.11.2007, 13:32
- OS boot managers -- comparison requested - Rugxulo, 21.11.2007, 12:57
- METAKERN by Eric Auer - lucho, 21.11.2007, 12:46
- Boot managers, Vista - Rugxulo, 21.11.2007, 09:57
- Boot managers, Vista - lucho, 21.11.2007, 09:40
- LZ-DOS 7.1 & booting previous DOS version - Rugxulo, 21.11.2007, 09:15
- LZ-DOS 7.1 & booting previous DOS version - lucho, 20.11.2007, 13:27
- LZ-DOS 7.1 & booting previous DOS version - RayeR, 20.11.2007, 12:07
- LZ-DOS 7.1 & booting previous DOS version - sol, 19.11.2007, 17:56