FASM can't understand OMF ".OBJ" files (Announce)
> OMF is really only necessary for linking between HLLs and assembly
That's a very simplistic view of a linker. Linker can be useful/necessary if no HLLs are involved at all. They are even useful if there's just a single module to be linked to a binary.
> OMF is complex, which Tomasz has lamented before. But yes, no OMF support
> in FASM does vaguely limit its usefulness. However, no one has volunteered
> to add it thus far, so they must not need it too bad ("why reinvent the
> wheel?" NASM, WASM, LZASM, MASM, TASM, A86/A386, Arrowsoft, SOLASM, etc.
> etc.). Windows and Linux don't use it, and that's 90% of the popular
> market right there.
That's true, but the argument has little weight. An assembler which claims to support 16bit has to support OMF. OMF is complex because it's very old, created in a time when the need to reduce space did justify virtually everything. But hey, noone did claim that writing an assembler is pure fun. There are always tasks which are boring and dull. The difference between a hobby project and a tool of professional quality is that the "boring" things have been done as well in the latter case.
> How is it a disadvantage?
Asm is less portable. An assembler is among those kind of tools where the higher degree of portability of C is a REAL advantage.
A second disadvantage is that a self-compiling tools can worsen the effect of undetected bugs. If a buggy tool is used for compilation, pretty strange effects are likely to occur, sometimes very hard to fix.
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- JWasm v1.8pre - Japheth, 17.06.2008, 11:04 (Announce)
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- JWasm v1.8pre | killing MA$M now ??? - DOS386, 18.06.2008, 12:23
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? - Japheth, 18.06.2008, 14:34
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - ecm, 18.06.2008, 16:58
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - Japheth, 18.06.2008, 19:17
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - Rugxulo, 18.06.2008, 19:38
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - Rugxulo, 19.06.2008, 23:43
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - ecm, 20.06.2008, 12:58
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - Rugxulo, 19.06.2008, 23:43
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - ecm, 18.06.2008, 19:46
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - Japheth, 18.06.2008, 19:55
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - Rugxulo, 18.06.2008, 19:38
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - Japheth, 18.06.2008, 19:17
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? - DOS386, 19.06.2008, 08:33
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? - Japheth, 19.06.2008, 10:02
- rxdos + jwasm - Japheth, 20.06.2008, 07:47
- JWasm v1.8pre | WLINK | PO | M | VALX - DOS386, 20.06.2008, 09:33
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? - Japheth, 19.06.2008, 10:02
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? | Compiling RxDOS - ecm, 18.06.2008, 16:58
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing good MASM now ??? - Japheth, 18.06.2008, 14:34
- JWasm v1.8pre - Rugxulo, 07.08.2008, 07:09
- JWasm v1.9 available - Japheth, 07.08.2008, 10:04
- JWasm v1.8pre - Rugxulo, 20.08.2008, 22:29
- JWasm v1.8pre - rr, 21.08.2008, 14:37
- JWasm v1.8pre - Rugxulo, 21.08.2008, 22:04
- JWasm v1.8pre - rr, 21.08.2008, 22:36
- JWasm v1.8pre - Rugxulo, 21.08.2008, 22:04
- JWasm v1.8pre - rr, 21.08.2008, 14:37
- JWasm Forum - Japheth, 14.08.2008, 16:41
- JWasm Forum - Rugxulo, 17.08.2008, 00:25
- JWasm v1.91 - Japheth, 20.08.2008, 07:02
- JWasm v1.91 - DOS386, 20.08.2008, 07:52
- JWasm v1.91 - Japheth, 20.08.2008, 10:33
- JWasm v1.91 - DOS386, 20.08.2008, 07:52
- JWasm v1.92 is out - Japheth, 23.09.2008, 09:48
- JWasm v1.92 is out - DOS386, 23.09.2008, 16:06
- JWasm v1.92 is out - Japheth, 24.09.2008, 14:03
- JWasm v1.92 is out - Steve, 24.09.2008, 23:44
- JWasm v1.92 is out | fixed old bug | added new bug - DOS386, 25.09.2008, 15:55
- JWasm v1.92 is out | fixed old bug | added new bug - Japheth, 25.09.2008, 17:21
- JWasm v1.92 is out | many bugs found - DOS386, 04.10.2008, 04:39
- JWasm v1.92 is out | many bugs found - Japheth, 04.10.2008, 08:53
- JWasm v1.92 is out | many bugs found - Rugxulo, 04.10.2008, 20:28
- JWasm v1.92 is out | many bugs found - DOS386, 05.10.2008, 13:47
- JWasm v1.92 is out | many bugs found - Japheth, 04.10.2008, 08:53
- JWasm v1.92 is out | many bugs found - DOS386, 04.10.2008, 04:39
- JWasm v1.92 is out | fixed old bug | added new bug - Japheth, 25.09.2008, 17:21
- JWasm v1.92 is out - Japheth, 24.09.2008, 14:03
- JWasm v1.92 is out - DOS386, 23.09.2008, 16:06
- JWasm v1.93 is out - Japheth, 26.10.2008, 20:06
- JWasm v1.93 is out - DOS386, 29.10.2008, 09:46
- JWasm v1.93 is out - Japheth, 29.10.2008, 13:59
- JWasm v1.93 is out - ecm, 29.10.2008, 19:59
- WARNING: your answers made me dangerously smart :-D - DOS386, 11.11.2008, 15:02
- WARNING: your answers made me dangerously smart :-D - Japheth, 07.12.2008, 15:04
- minor bug: REP CMPSB - Rugxulo, 07.12.2008, 20:28
- minor bug: REP CMPSB - Japheth, 07.12.2008, 22:37
- minor bug: REP CMPSB - Rugxulo, 07.12.2008, 20:28
- WARNING: your answers made me dangerously smart :-D - Japheth, 07.12.2008, 15:04
- JWasm v1.93 is out - Japheth, 29.10.2008, 13:59
- JWasm v1.93 is out - DOS386, 29.10.2008, 09:46
- JWasm v1.94 - Japheth, 19.12.2008, 18:19
- JWasm v1.94a and b - Japheth, 21.12.2008, 15:05
- JWasm v1.94a and b - Rugxulo, 23.12.2008, 07:13
- JWasm v1.94a, b and c - Japheth, 24.12.2008, 12:50
- JWasm v1.94a, b and c and 1.95 pre - DOS386, 29.12.2008, 01:27
- Reason isn't easy to find ... - Japheth, 29.12.2008, 08:31
- JWasm and FASM are more robust than others - Rugxulo, 29.12.2008, 23:28
- FASM is inferior for DOS programming - Japheth, 30.12.2008, 08:10
- FASM can't understand OMF ".OBJ" files - Rugxulo, 30.12.2008, 20:14
- FASM can't understand OMF ".OBJ" files - Japheth, 01.01.2009, 19:33
- FASM can't understand OMF ".OBJ" files - Rugxulo, 02.01.2009, 04:45
- FASM can't brew (!) OMF ".OBJ" files OBJCONV port it away - DOS386, 02.01.2009, 10:39
- FASM can't brew (!) OMF ".OBJ" files OBJCONV port it away - Japheth, 02.01.2009, 11:14
- I like the bin format - ecm, 02.01.2009, 19:00
- FASM lacks OMF/OBJ support (16- / 32-bit) - Rugxulo, 02.01.2009, 19:59
- FASM lacks OMF/OBJ support (16- / 32-bit) - ecm, 02.01.2009, 22:36
- FASM lacks OMF/OBJ support (16- / 32-bit) - DOS386, 04.01.2009, 11:17
- FASM lacks OMF/OBJ support (16- / 32-bit) - Rugxulo, 04.01.2009, 21:26
- FASM lacks OMF/OBJ support (16- / 32-bit) - DOS386, 04.01.2009, 11:17
- FASM lacks OMF/OBJ support (16- / 32-bit) - ecm, 02.01.2009, 22:36
- FASM lacks OMF/OBJ support (16- / 32-bit) - Rugxulo, 02.01.2009, 19:59
- I like the bin format - ecm, 02.01.2009, 19:00
- FASM can't brew (!) OMF ".OBJ" files OBJCONV port it away - Japheth, 02.01.2009, 11:14
- FASM can't understand OMF ".OBJ" files - Japheth, 01.01.2009, 19:33
- FASM is superior for DOS programming - DOS386, 30.12.2008, 22:40
- FASM can't understand OMF ".OBJ" files - Rugxulo, 30.12.2008, 20:14
- FASM is inferior for DOS programming - Japheth, 30.12.2008, 08:10
- JWasm and FASM are more robust than others - Rugxulo, 29.12.2008, 23:28
- Reason isn't easy to find ... - Japheth, 29.12.2008, 08:31
- JWasm v1.94a, b and c and 1.95 pre - DOS386, 29.12.2008, 01:27
- JWasm v1.94a, b and c - Japheth, 24.12.2008, 12:50
- JWasm v1.94a and b - Rugxulo, 23.12.2008, 07:13
- JWasm v1.94a and b - Japheth, 21.12.2008, 15:05
- JWasm BANNED - DOS386, 22.03.2009, 05:10
- No - Japheth, 22.03.2009, 06:42
- Overlay swopping and segment macros - ecm, 22.03.2009, 11:49
- No - Rugxulo, 27.03.2009, 17:00
- No - Japheth, 28.03.2009, 07:11
- No - Japheth, 22.03.2009, 06:42
- JWasm v1.8pre | killing MA$M now ??? - DOS386, 18.06.2008, 12:23
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