DOS ain't dead

CM's questions, answered (Miscellaneous)

posted by Ninho , 13.12.2009, 10:32
(edited by Ninho on 13.12.2009, 11:16)

>> Not that I am a regular user of Win-ME (who is ? )

> I has been using it some years. It's not as bad as they say; especially
> the native USB support was a lot better than 98 SE's. (I.e. it was
> actually usable.)

I didn't say WinME was all rubbish. What I did say is DOS 8, as can be ripped from a Windows ME, is not the best choice for an all-purpose MS-DOS; DOS 7.10 is more general.

>>> Where? Or rather: How do you find that table?
> Umm, I asked where/how you find that table in the DOS data segment...

Similar to how Ralf, Geoff, I assume, and others do : by peeking at the codes, including initialisation stuff, making deductions and experimenting as needed.
As far as I know, "reversing" code (Fravia's word; did you know he passed away, recently?) for personal learning is still *not* considered criminal in this land of the crazy; it shoudln't be anyway.

...
>> It's not like I'm concealing trade secrets, on the contrary, I am set up
>> to explain clearly the hows and whys

Excuse me if I seem to fail to discern clearly what you are asking for.
If you're trying to suggest I should make a web page of organised notes about the (small part) of MS-DOS 7+ internals that I have explored, it is a good idea. I'll consider doing so, but please understand that programming is not my main interest in life, there are other subjects I would make pages about if I were to start a personal site. Certainly someone should take up the task of updating Ralf Brown's "int list" from where he left off, including the DOS 7+ reference data.

> These people could go on and read your answers here instead of reading the
> provided source. I don't see how you, providing the source as download,
> would prevent them from doing so or you from writing these answers.

Everybody's welcome to read my prose, not that it's so interesting

---
Ninho

Complete thread:

• new HACKWRAP fix for MS-DOS7+, aka smashing the bug - Ninho, 11.12.2009, 00:17 (Miscellaneous)
  • new HACKWRAP fix for MS-DOS7+, aka smashing the bug - ecm, 11.12.2009, 15:02
    • new *FIXWRAP* for MS-DOS7+, aka smashing the bug - Ninho, 12.12.2009, 01:12
  • FIXWRAP technical thread. News - Ninho, 12.12.2009, 16:05
    • CM's questions, answered - Ninho, 12.12.2009, 18:22
      • CM's questions, answered - ecm, 12.12.2009, 22:40
        • CM's questions, answered - Ninho, 13.12.2009, 00:10
          • CM's questions, answered - ecm, 13.12.2009, 00:51
            • CM's questions, answered - Ninho, 13.12.2009, 10:32
      • CM's questions, answered - geoffchappell, 14.12.2009, 10:42
        • CM's questions, answered - Ninho, 14.12.2009, 12:19
  • new HACKWRAP fix for MS-DOS7+, aka smashing the bug - geoffchappell, 14.12.2009, 10:41
    • new HACKWRAP fix for MS-DOS7+, aka smashing the bug - Ninho, 14.12.2009, 11:49
      • new HACKWRAP fix for MS-DOS7+, aka smashing the bug - geoffchappell, 15.12.2009, 16:55
        • new HACKWRAP fix for MS-DOS7+, aka smashing the bug - Ninho, 15.12.2009, 19:08
        • new HACKWRAP fix for MS-DOS7+, aka smashing the bug - Ninho, 17.12.2009, 16:35
  • the DOS code segment hunt, results/questions - Ninho, 14.12.2009, 20:37
    • the DOS code segment hunt, results/questions - ecm, 14.12.2009, 23:30
      • the DOS code segment hunt, results/questions - Ninho, 15.12.2009, 00:59
      • Aha! Share was a *red herring* ! Hunt over !!! - Ninho, 15.12.2009, 10:32
        • Aha! Share was a *red herring* ! Hunt over !!! - ecm, 15.12.2009, 21:13
          • Aha! Share was a *red herring* ! Hunt over !!! - Ninho, 15.12.2009, 22:32
            • Aha! Share was a *red herring* ! Hunt over !!! - ecm, 15.12.2009, 23:05
      • the DOS code segment hunt, results/questions - geoffchappell, 15.12.2009, 16:56
        • the DOS code segment hunt, results/questions - ecm, 15.12.2009, 21:19
          • the DOS code segment hunt, results/questions - Ninho, 15.12.2009, 22:38
            • the DOS code segment hunt, results/questions - ecm, 15.12.2009, 23:06
              • the DOS code segment hunt, results/questions - Ninho, 16.12.2009, 09:22
        • the DOS code segment hunt, results/questions - Ninho, 16.12.2009, 20:24
          • the DOS code segment hunt, results/questions - Ninho, 30.12.2009, 10:50
    • the algorithm, sketched for review. Nitpicks ? - Ninho, 16.12.2009, 19:51
      • the algorithm, sketched for review. Nitpicks ? - ecm, 17.12.2009, 16:19
        • the algorithm, sketched for review. Nitpicks ? - Ninho, 17.12.2009, 17:14
          • the algorithm, sketched for review. Nitpicks ? - ecm, 17.12.2009, 20:32
            • the algorithm, sketched for review. Nitpicks ? - Ninho, 17.12.2009, 21:05
              • the algorithm, sketched for review. Nitpicks ? - ecm, 17.12.2009, 21:13
                • the algorithm, sketched for review. Nitpicks ? - Ninho, 17.12.2009, 23:16
                • digression : MSDOS 7 and SHARE.EXE revisited - Ninho, 18.12.2009, 13:04
                  • digression : MSDOS 7 and SHARE.EXE revisited - ecm, 18.12.2009, 14:31
                    • digression : MSDOS 7 and SHARE.EXE revisited - Ninho, 18.12.2009, 17:19
                      • digression : MSDOS 7 and SHARE.EXE revisited - ecm, 18.12.2009, 18:19
                        • digression : MSDOS 7 and SHARE.EXE revisited - Ninho, 18.12.2009, 18:55
  • HACKWRAP.SYS news, testing - Ninho, 20.12.2009, 02:44
    • FIXWRAP.SYS 0.5 beta - released - please try it ! - Ninho, 23.12.2009, 00:07