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Source code of Jack's drivers IS free, but Japheth fears it (Announce)

posted by lucho, 27.09.2007, 18:27

> In *my* humble opinion it is a bit strange if someone who illegally
> distributes an MS-DOS "clone" requires ethically thinking from somebody
> else. As for me, I won't talk to Mr. Ellis. But no need to worry, I won't
> use his source then ... and this issue has very low priority. However,
> since the source apparently is NOT free (at least not in the sense I
> understand freedom), it might be a good idea to clarify the conditions
> when and how to use it in the readme.txt.

What "clone" do you mean? LZ-DOS? Have you read that its free to use and convey? As to Jack Ellis, you obviously fear his new source code, which is free, by the way - so if you can't understand it, please find a better excuse not to use it than falsely calling it "non-free"!

> I am not a lawyer, and I have no wish to be one. Anybody is
> "free" to use the source files for the UDMA/UDVD/XMGR drivers
> any way they wish. I hope THAT is clear-enough for you all.

The above was written by him at http://www.mail-archive.com/freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg06151.html

> > UDMA/XMGR makes XDMA/XCDROM completely obsolete
>
> No. SATA DVDs are rare, because they offer no benefits compared to PATA -
> in contrast to SATA HDs. And adding support for SATA is rather simple,
> since the API is the same.

There are other reasons why XDMA and XCDROM are obsolete, but obviously you don't understand them, or don't care about them, or both, Mr. Andreas Grech.

Complete thread:

• UDMA and UDVD with SATA support! Hex-boot diskette image - lucho, 16.09.2007, 18:30 (Announce)
  • UDMA and UDVD with SATA support! Hex-boot diskette image - Rugxulo, 16.09.2007, 21:32
    • thanks - lucho, 18.09.2007, 09:38
    • UDMA and UDVD with SATA support! - lucho, 25.09.2007, 09:38
      • UDMA and UDVD with SATA support! - Rugxulo, 25.09.2007, 19:05
        • UDMA and UDVD with SATA support! - Rugxulo, 27.09.2007, 01:22
          • UDVD and SATA drives - lucho, 27.09.2007, 08:14
            • Please post SATA DVD test results here! - Japheth, 27.09.2007, 10:37
              • UDMA/XMGR makes XDMA/XCDROM completely obsolete - lucho, 27.09.2007, 15:59
                • No - Japheth, 27.09.2007, 17:55
                  • Source code of Jack's drivers IS free, but Japheth fears it - lucho, 27.09.2007, 18:27
                    • No - Japheth, 27.09.2007, 19:46
                      • NOT My Words! - Jack R. Ellis, 27.09.2007, 20:58
                        • NOT My Words! - Rugxulo, 27.09.2007, 23:35
                        • NOT My Words! - Japheth, 28.09.2007, 08:44
                          • Who is the liar? - lucho, 28.09.2007, 09:44
                            • Do you know what a "Winkeladvokat" is? - Japheth, 28.09.2007, 11:57
                              • Personal insults from/to Andreas Grech - lucho, 28.09.2007, 19:00
                                • and there again... - Aspi, 28.09.2007, 20:05
                                • You have asked, so please don't complain now - Japheth, 29.09.2007, 08:46
                                  • I did nothing to be ashamed about so stop your flames please - lucho, 30.09.2007, 15:51
                                    • Oh no, you are the source of all this - Japheth, 30.09.2007, 16:32
                                      • Insulting personal qualifications from Andreas Grech - lucho, 30.09.2007, 16:52
                                        • Ok, final comment - Japheth, 30.09.2007, 17:07
                                    • I did nothing to be ashamed about so stop your flames please - Steve, 30.09.2007, 17:31
                              • "Targets" - Jack R. Ellis, 29.09.2007, 09:55
                                • "Targets" - Tom, 29.09.2007, 23:26
                                  • Comments. - Jack, 30.09.2007, 00:43
                                    • Comments. - Steve, 30.09.2007, 02:37
                                      • Hitting The Road. - Jack, 30.09.2007, 09:16
                                        • Hitting The Road. - Steve, 30.09.2007, 10:22
                                      • Comments. - Tom, 30.09.2007, 16:14
                                        • No Need, Tom -- I Will Leave. - Jack, 30.09.2007, 17:09
                                          • WARNING: a response from one of the "bad guys"! - Japheth, 30.09.2007, 18:40
                                        • Comments. - Steve, 30.09.2007, 17:43
                            • Who is the liar? - Steve, 28.09.2007, 12:26
                              • Software cannot be stolen - lucho, 28.09.2007, 18:53
                                • Software cannot be stolen - Steve, 30.09.2007, 10:48
                                  • Software cannot be stolen - lucho, 30.09.2007, 16:36
                                    • Software cannot be stolen - Steve, 30.09.2007, 17:16
                    • Source code of Jack's drivers IS free, but Japheth fears it - Steve, 28.09.2007, 12:05
                      • "Enlightenment" - Jack R. Ellis, 28.09.2007, 15:31
                      • Source code of Jack's drivers is really free! - lucho, 28.09.2007, 18:43
                • UDMA/XMGR makes XDMA/XCDROM completely obsolete - Steve, 28.09.2007, 12:09
                  • Mixing incompatible old and new existing code is a bad idea - lucho, 28.09.2007, 18:22
                    • Mixing incompatible old and new existing code is a bad idea - Steve, 28.09.2007, 23:04
            • An END To All This!! - Jack R. Ellis, 28.09.2007, 21:08
              • No - Japheth, 29.09.2007, 09:02
              • "No" To YOURSELF, FOOL!! - Jack R. Ellis, 29.09.2007, 10:50
                • Yes - Japheth, 29.09.2007, 11:26
                • Wrong AGAIN, FOOL!! - Jack, 29.09.2007, 17:42
                  • No AGAIN, friend! - Japheth, 30.09.2007, 15:48
                    • Lessons From YOU?? - Jack, 30.09.2007, 18:00