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Bloatware is not just "C vs. Assembler" (Announce)

posted by lucho, 17.10.2007, 19:13

> But this "C vs. ASM" debate is such old hat that it is bloatware itself.

It's not just C vs. Assembler. The applications in 1986 were also written mostly in C. But they were still far from being a bloatware. It started a bit later...

> People believe what they want to believe, and usually the perception is
> deformed as well to be able to ignore the facts which don't support one's
> belief. This is a common disease of human beings, everyone suffers from
> it, but sometimes it may help a little if you become at least aware of it.

Don't worry, we're aware, but it's equally true that obvious things are often most difficult to see (especially given the brainwashing of the media and ads!), and here's hardly anything more obvious than bloatware in the computer business. So let's not turn blind eye to it.

Complete thread:

• Jack's drivers updated - Laaca, 13.10.2007, 13:48 (Announce)
  • Corrected UIDE Coming. - Jack, 13.10.2007, 16:56
  • Jack's drivers updated - Japheth, 14.10.2007, 11:17
    • MASM 5.10 - lucho, 14.10.2007, 18:35
      • Clarification - lucho, 14.10.2007, 18:41
      • MASM 5.10 - rr, 15.10.2007, 12:54
        • Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - lucho, 15.10.2007, 18:23
          • Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - rr, 15.10.2007, 20:57
          • Open source development prohibited with MA$M32 ?!? - DOS386, 16.10.2007, 01:53
            • Open source development prohibited with MA$M32 ?!? - rr, 16.10.2007, 09:51
          • Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - Steve, 16.10.2007, 13:35
            • Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - Japheth, 16.10.2007, 19:31
            • Steve Hutchesson's weird "MASM32" licence - lucho, 16.10.2007, 19:44
              • Steve Hutchesson's weird "MASM32" licence - Rugxulo, 17.10.2007, 01:33
            • Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - sol, 29.10.2007, 17:12
              • Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - Rugxulo, 30.10.2007, 05:23
                • Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - sol, 30.10.2007, 16:55
                  • Open source development prohibited with MASM ?!? - Rugxulo, 31.10.2007, 00:37
                  • Open source development NOT prohibited with MASM! - lucho, 31.10.2007, 20:24
        • If So, DELETE Your "Links". - Jack, 15.10.2007, 18:51
          • If So, DELETE Your "Links". - lucho, 15.10.2007, 19:07
            • don't worry - Rugxulo, 15.10.2007, 19:56
            • If So, DELETE Your "Links". - Japheth, 15.10.2007, 23:02
        • Still "Linked", I See! - Jack, 15.10.2007, 20:22
      • MASM 5.10 - Japheth, 15.10.2007, 14:55
        • MASM 5.10 - lucho, 15.10.2007, 18:18
          • MASM 5.10 - Japheth, 16.10.2007, 14:06
            • MASM 5.10 and WASM - lucho, 16.10.2007, 17:44
              • MASM 5.10 and WASM - Japheth, 16.10.2007, 18:06
                • WASM - lucho, 16.10.2007, 18:41
        • NOT Responsible For Other Assemblers!! - Jack, 16.10.2007, 16:11
          • MASM 5.10, RxDOS, DOS-C - lucho, 17.10.2007, 08:47
            • MASM 5.10? No! - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 10:06
              • DOS-C, RxDOS, EDR-DOS, MASM 5.10 - lucho, 17.10.2007, 12:24
                • Quantity issues - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 12:54
                  • 99% of DOS users run DOS in a Virtual Machine ?!? - lucho, 17.10.2007, 13:29
                    • 99% of DOS users run DOS in a Virtual Machine ?!? - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 14:19
                      • Real DOS is still alive! - lucho, 17.10.2007, 14:32
                  • Quantity issues - Khusraw, 17.10.2007, 17:20
                    • Hello - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 18:21
                      • Hello - Khusraw, 17.10.2007, 18:31
                        • Hello - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 19:12
                          • Asynchronous synchronisation to ethics - lucho, 17.10.2007, 19:33
                            • Asynchronous synchronisation to ethics - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 19:55
                              • The German proverb about flies and something censored twice - lucho, 17.10.2007, 20:26
                                • The German proverb about flies and something censored twice - tom, 17.10.2007, 20:33
                                  • Efficiency still counts! - lucho, 17.10.2007, 20:55
                                • The German proverb about flies and something censored twice - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 21:08
                              • Asynchronous synchronisation to ethics - Khusraw, 17.10.2007, 21:33
                                • Asynchronous synchronisation to ethics - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 21:41
                          • Hello - Khusraw, 17.10.2007, 19:48
                  • Quantity issues - DOS386, 24.10.2007, 02:41
                • PRIDE Issues!! - Jack, 17.10.2007, 13:31
                • Anyone Want a 1.75K UIDEJR?? - Jack, 17.10.2007, 20:09
            • MASM 5.10, RxDOS, DOS-C FreeDOS kernel ASM vs C - DOS386, 24.10.2007, 02:58
              • MASM 5.10, RxDOS, DOS-C FreeDOS kernel ASM vs C - Japheth, 24.10.2007, 15:08
                • RxDOS. ASM vs C kernels. Cluster alocation of FreeDOS - lucho, 24.10.2007, 15:57
                • MASM 5.10, WASM, Po-ASM, convincing "dialects" - DOS386, 25.10.2007, 06:41
                  • MASM 5.10, WASM, Po-ASM, convincing "dialects" - Japheth, 25.10.2007, 07:55
                    • MASM 5.10, WASM, Po-ASM, convincing "dialects" - Rugxulo, 26.10.2007, 02:32
              • recompiling the FreeDOS kernel -- easy as pie - Rugxulo, 26.10.2007, 04:15
                • recompiling the FreeDOS kernel -- easy as pie - DOS386, 26.10.2007, 08:18
                  • recompiling the FreeDOS kernel -- easy as pie - Rugxulo, 27.10.2007, 14:20
                    • RxDOS - lucho, 27.10.2007, 17:35
                      • RxDOS - Rugxulo, 28.10.2007, 02:01
                        • RxDOS | C vs ASM | purism | empty RX at SF ? - DOS386, 28.10.2007, 02:09
                          • RxDOS vs DOS-C - lucho, 28.10.2007, 09:45
                            • RxDOS vs DOS-C - tom, 29.10.2007, 11:23
                            • RxDOS vs DOS-C - Rugxulo, 29.10.2007, 13:53
                        • RxDOS - Steve, 28.10.2007, 04:57
                          • RxDOS - rr, 28.10.2007, 17:30
                            • RxDOS - Steve, 29.10.2007, 00:33
                              • RxDOS - Rugxulo, 29.10.2007, 13:55
                                • RxDOS - rr, 29.10.2007, 14:29
                                  • RxDOS - rr, 31.10.2007, 15:36
                          • RxDOS - rr, 29.10.2007, 14:46
                            • RxDOS - Rugxulo, 30.10.2007, 05:26
                              • RxDOS - rr, 30.10.2007, 10:56
                                • RxDOS - Rugxulo, 01.11.2007, 03:11
          • "C" For Systems Work Is ... - Jack, 17.10.2007, 13:13
            • Bloatware! - lucho, 17.10.2007, 14:27
              • Please not another C vs. ASM debate! - Japheth, 17.10.2007, 16:02
                • Bloatware is not just "C vs. Assembler" - lucho, 17.10.2007, 19:13
              • Then "Keepen Zie Mouth SHUT"!! - Jack, 17.10.2007, 16:09
            • "C" For Systems Work Is ... - Steve, 25.10.2007, 15:12
      • MASM 5.10 - Jack, 15.10.2007, 18:22
  • Corrected UIDE Available. - Jack, 14.10.2007, 14:44
    • Corrected UIDE Available. - lucho, 15.10.2007, 07:28