DOS ain't dead - Seagate and DOS

Seagate and DOS (Miscellaneous)

posted by sol, 31.10.2007, 17:26

> make you finally tell us what really torments your soul.

Replying to comments about DOS having millions of users and being competition with all the other OSes out there means I must have a tormented soul? You're odd.

> "evolved", but if DOS does the same, it becomes for you another OS! Look

If you tear out & replace the file system, memory allocation, executable formats, scripting language, driver framework...is it really DOS when there's nothing left of it, if it runs no DOS software/drivers?

> DOS. There is allways an "all-knowing" person disposed to answer by
> telling them that they are waisting their time putting DOS questions, and
> ...
> These people are like you, frustrated individuals, who are obsessed with
> their own past. You are incapable to understand that they know very well
> what they are doing and they have a computer experience totally opposed to
>
> ...bla bla...
>
> I live in a burgeoise society and I must bend to its rules.
> With my max. 4-5 spare time hours

Sounds to me like you're the one that's "tormented" - you've tied your home/emotional life to DOS, gotten offended and immediately assumed I'm exactly like someone else instead of reading carefully.

Like I said, I have done quite a bit and still do some development for DOS. I've got an understanding of the OS well enough to re-write it from the ground up without any assistance. What I pointed out was a reality --- I was not advocating for everyone to stop using DOS, but rather not talk about it like it's something it isn't.

Saying DOS is something it isn't, is not just an insult to other OSes, but an insult to DOS as well.

> DOS has not lost because of its flaws, but because Microsoft has
> abbandoned it.

Only partially true. Do you remember what I said above about ripping out all the core components, required to improve the OS? This is what they realized. Win3.1 and Win9x were basically new OSes except for a few areas --- they supported/emulated some interrupts, they kept the file system, etc. This was at the expense of some security/stability.

> hobbyists took Unix as model for developing their own OS, they did that
> because they connected DOS with the powerful and hated by them company.
> With all of its advantages over DOS, Unix was less user friendly.

This is possibly the most ridiculous thing I've heard on this board so far.

Unix was popular in academia - especially considering it was actually thought through and implementing theories in computer science. DOS was a heavily marketed toy invented over lunch.

You don't build a house on quicksand -- and you wouldn't build an OS with a poor memory model, no security and no multitasking.

Also, why don't you try looking up "POSIX". OSes written based on standards? OMG, How absurd!

> that almost no one uses Linux. Linux was and will be the poor man's
> option. What has Linux to offer, disregarding the price, and Microsoft's
> last OS lacks?

Looks like I was right about you looking in the mirror when you call me a "tormented soul". You're getting upset that I'm saying DOS has few users and that it doesn't offer much...and now you're saying that Linux has *nothing* to offer. Seems you're far worse than you accuse me of being.

1. It's open source = won't get stuck in the 'DOS' situation where it has to be entirely rewritten if the developers abandoned it.

2. No DRM, spyware, or control of the creators over the OS. Don't know what DRM is? Look it up.

3. Designed around security. Far fewer serious security holes as a result.

4. Comes with drivers covering most hardware.

5. No GUI by default - can network/multitask in text mode.

6. Comes with software for file/disk encryption & encrypted network traffic, compression, listening to network data, reading many file systems, etc.

7. It's stable. Run it for a year without rebooting if you'd like, without much trouble at all.

I could continue.

> You are a calumniator.

Because I pointed out your lies?

> Formerly I thought that you are just another "devil's advocate", but later
> I convinced myself that you are a frustrated and disoriented person who in
> the past earned from DOS and now he can't. Please show a single new thing
> you revealed in this thread.

I didn't claim to be revealing anything new - just correcting misinformation.

> You called him anti-social because of, in your opinion, his "improper"
> reactions, but what you have to say about yours, Mr. Sol, when you called
> me "moron". BTW, do you know how many times ... bla bla ...

Actually, I called you a "clueless moron" -- because you reply without reading to understand. You still haven't, so I still assert that it's true.

Apart from that - I don't care if no one uses my software or has a bad opinion of me. Jack was complaining no one was using his, so I suggested why that might be.

Thread locked

Complete thread:

Only One "Customer" -- ONLY ONE!!! - Jack, 17.10.2007, 23:39 (Miscellaneous)
- Only One "Customer" -- ONLY ONE!!! - Steve, 18.10.2007, 08:27
- Only One "Customer" -- ONLY ONE!!! - sol, 23.10.2007, 17:41
  - NO! - Jack, 23.10.2007, 21:49
    - NO! - sol, 23.10.2007, 22:50
      - The DOS user base is much larger than you think - lucho, 24.10.2007, 13:55
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - sol, 24.10.2007, 17:43
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - lucho, 24.10.2007, 18:27
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - sol, 24.10.2007, 18:38
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - lucho, 25.10.2007, 09:16
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - sol, 25.10.2007, 17:16
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - lucho, 25.10.2007, 18:05
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - Rugxulo, 26.10.2007, 02:27
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - sol, 26.10.2007, 02:32
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - Rugxulo, 26.10.2007, 04:42
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - sol, 26.10.2007, 06:27
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - Rugxulo, 26.10.2007, 07:42
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - sol, 26.10.2007, 17:40
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - Rugxulo, 27.10.2007, 14:04
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - DOS386, 26.10.2007, 08:07
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - sol, 26.10.2007, 18:05
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - Rugxulo, 27.10.2007, 13:55
        30 seconds boot time - lucho, 27.10.2007, 14:32
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - Rugxulo, 28.10.2007, 01:38
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - Steve, 28.10.2007, 04:26
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - sol, 28.10.2007, 20:18
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - Rugxulo, 29.10.2007, 13:31
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - sol, 30.10.2007, 16:47
        The charm of DOS - lucho, 30.10.2007, 17:23
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - Rugxulo, 31.10.2007, 00:43
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - DOS386, 26.10.2007, 07:59
        The "Title" of This Thread. - Jack, 24.10.2007, 19:36
        The "Title" of This Thread. - sol, 24.10.2007, 19:46
        Get Something ELSE!! - Jack, 24.10.2007, 22:27
        Get Something ELSE!! - sol, 24.10.2007, 23:01
        The "Title" of This Thread. - DOS386, 25.10.2007, 06:30
        The "Title" of This Thread. - rr, 25.10.2007, 10:48
        The "Title" of This Thread and the God - DOS386, 26.10.2007, 08:10
        The "Title" of This Thread. - Steve, 25.10.2007, 14:55
        Boot floppy - lucho, 25.10.2007, 15:29
        The "Title" of This Thread. - DOS386, 28.10.2007, 02:00
        The "Title" of This Thread. - sol, 28.10.2007, 20:28
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - RayeR, 29.10.2007, 12:35
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - sol, 30.10.2007, 16:44
        Seagate and DOS - lucho, 30.10.2007, 17:24
        Seagate and DOS - sol, 30.10.2007, 19:20
        DyDOSaurs - lucho, 30.10.2007, 20:05
        DyDOSaurs - sol, 30.10.2007, 20:10
        Questions to Solomon - lucho, 31.10.2007, 10:32
        Seagate and DOS - Khusraw, 30.10.2007, 21:05
        Seagate and DOS - sol, 30.10.2007, 21:47
        Seagate and DOS - Khusraw, 30.10.2007, 22:29
        Seagate and DOS - Khusraw, 30.10.2007, 22:34
        Seagate and DOS - sol, 30.10.2007, 22:48
        Seagate and DOS - Khusraw, 31.10.2007, 02:29
        Seagate and DOS - sol, 31.10.2007, 05:01
        Seagate and DOS - Khusraw, 31.10.2007, 14:44
        Seagate and DOS - sol, 31.10.2007, 17:26
        Seagate and DOS - sol, 30.10.2007, 22:43
        Seagate and DOS - Rugxulo, 31.10.2007, 00:51
        Seagate and DOS - Khusraw, 31.10.2007, 01:12
        Seagate and DOS - sol, 31.10.2007, 04:35
        Seagate and DOS - sol, 30.10.2007, 22:47
        Seagate and DOS - Khusraw, 31.10.2007, 01:22
        The DOS user base is much larger than you think - RayeR, 31.10.2007, 12:40
- One of the biggest improvements to DOS - lucho, 25.10.2007, 16:39
  - One of the biggest improvements to DOS - Tom, 25.10.2007, 17:06
- Let's End THIS Poor-Old Thread, As Well! - Jack, 31.10.2007, 15:46