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posted by Rugxulo Homepage, Usono, 23.02.2020, 02:10

> > I swear they intentionally avoid mentioning these details (and VT-X
> > and a billion other features, who can even keep track?).
>
> Partially yes to have a really drawn out product-palette.
"WinXP Mode" (not for home users!) didn't need it, but Hyper-V (only in Pro 64-bit) does. That may formerly have been more Intel stubbornness than MS.

> Well, since my last (private) laptop was Sony, and Sony got out of the
> laptop biz, I'll need to find a new brand :-)
Brand means almost nothing. It's probably different people, different ideals across the years. But if you know nothing else (e.g. detailed specs), brand loyalty is better than nothing.

> My work laptop is Medion, which is a large German OEM afaik which uses
> Akoya (or something) branded mobos. Aldi and Mediamarkt/Saturn peddle their
> stuff.
Gesundheit (obvious joke). Never heard of it. All we have is the mundane HP, Dell, MS, Apple, Lenovo, Asus, etc.

> I bought it mainly because back then they were the only brand that had
> SSD/HDD combo systems for under Eur 1000.
You mean hybrid or dual (side-by-side)? Probably dual.

> > Ever looked at FSF's "Respect Your Freedom" (refurbished?) laptops?
> > Quite ancient (2008-ish?) tech but no ME or PSP or whatever.
>
> No. I mostly run Windows nowadays.
Intel's ME used your beloved Minix 3 behind the scenes. I don't think Andy (now retired) appreciated that, even if it did comply with BSD licensing.

I'm not that paranoid. I guess I'd almost rather have a reproducibly free/libre machine, even if old. (God forbid I use two separate devices!) Some people cannot be trusted.

But my hacks are wimpy anyways. Even if we could get a totally free system (with FreeDOS or Linux or Minix or Oberon), what would a wimp like me do with it? Rebuild FPC?? :-D

(This isn't quite what I meant, but one guy did convert the Oberon RISC emulator (EDIT: from C) to FPC + SDL2.)

> > I need to rebuild the Go32v2 version one of these days.
> It really should be buildable in DOS natively.
>
> It could at some point, though most used Win9x. Later XP.
Certainly FreeDOS (under VM) is more viable than those other "dead" OSes, IMHO.

> > Have you seen any Windows ARM64 machines? What are your opinions?
>
> Currently irrelevant.
IIRC ... always-on (phone?), emulates IA-32 software up through SSE2 (yet with native ARM64 drivers) and even emulates DirectX 9-12. Sounds interesting.

> > The less reliance on brittle (unportable) makefiles and POSIX shell, the
> > better. (Doesn't even Win10 have Bash and Curl nowadays??)
>
> No, that is a separate add-on install.
Okay, I wouldn't know, but it's very easy to download, presumably. (Just to split hairs, even "Win 10 S" only allows downloading from their Store [cheaper, more secure] unless you upgrade to Pro.)

> > (Nested functions would be very nice to standardize, too.
> > GCC and TCC support it, so do others like D.)
 >
> Proper nested functions is a complex topic, specially how nested functions
> can reach their parents parameters and variables, even when recursing.
>
> Afaik gcc doesn't really support that, only simple nesting.
Trampolines? (I have no idea.) Yeah, I didn't say it was necessarily perfect or easy, just that some people heavily prefer them. It wouldn't be the first time something unpopular was standardized. (Make it optional?? But even that kind of thing some people are against.)

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