DOS ain't dead - int 15/4f French keyboard driver ready + Now what? *

int 15/4f French keyboard driver ready + Now what? * (Developers)

posted by Ninho , 11.05.2011, 13:38

Hi Rugx !
> ... (retyping since browser deleted my post, gah) ...
Ouch...! Which browser was that ? Arachne doesn't play such bad tricks on me :)

>> Also quick tested in FreeDOS, no problem seen.

> Good to know.

Actually I wouldn't expect any DOS-type or version related problems
with KBFR (resident part) : it is simply a *BIOS int 15h* hook, no DOS
functions involved. The only DOS related part is the tiny, optional int 2F
hook which I wouldn't expect to be problematic either. And of course the
loader, which is Japheth's good work horse.

>> Now please speak up, is anybody else trying or planning to try this
>> critter, or having critics/wishes ? Or shall I wrap up the thing, more or
>> less as it is, while cleaning/clearing the licensing
>> terms (on which matter I beg you for advice too).

> Can't test, no French keyboard, no parlais francais,

:=)

> so your best bet is to
> wrap it up and/or ask for help on comp.os.msdos.programmer, comp.lang.misc,
> comp.lang.asm.x86, or similar.

Methinks I don't need /that/ level of help. Was looking for testers;
instead I turned family members into guinea pigs. Since they appeared
to survive test and not to curse me (aloud), I'll be wrapping up.

>>I am willing to donate the thing to FreeDOS - non exclusively - if they want
>> it as a component or as an addon
....

>> I can certainly think of certain modifications, but it's all a question of
>> compromise with the notion of "low memory footprint". No point in adding
>> options which users don't care about (ex: Control Alt F1/f2 to switch
>> back and forth between Fr and US ? Loading into the HMA ? changing the way
>> the detection/unload options work ? etc...)

> Switch or unload aren't important if the differences are small.

I have some objection against the way detection (for eventual unloading)
is implemented, but... basta!

The HMA option is what I would do next if my time (and lifeline) weren't
as compromised as they are. This thing is an ideal candidate for filling
a hole in said HMA. Do you know if FreeDOS implements the same API than
MSDOS 5+ for internal HMA alloc (int 2F/4A0x IIRC) ? DRDOS certainly has
a similar, but alas! different scheme (or had, I never went passed DRDOS 6)

...

> Isn't FFK (Dugl dude) French? Maybe he could help. :-)

Sorry, don't know him or Dugl, my bad.

> You could also ask on freedos-user or freedos-devel (or me in your place if
> you aren't subscribed).

Seems to be a good plan; I am not subsribed, not a FreeDOS user or
contributor. I would appreciate your submitting the propsition there,
you may of course post the download URL to freedos.devel, if you do please
be sure to tell them I'll be clearing the copyright/license.

>> host the finished app? Is Bttr-software (Rr?) a possibility ?

> Dunno about BTTR, they seem perennially busy. But (assuming it's
> free/libre, which is a rule Jim Hall is strict about), I could always
> announce it on FreeDOS' main News page (and/or mirror on iBiblio if I can
> ever figure out how the hell to scp a file there via ssh, ugh!)

Yet a good plan, only wait till it's final. of course!

Thanks !

--
Ninho

typed in Arachne under MS-DOS 7.1 and using recycled electrons.

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Complete thread:

int 15/4f French keyboard driver ready + *Ping Japheth* - Ninho, 27.04.2011, 13:34 (Developers)
- int 15/4f French keyboard driver ready + *Ping Japheth* - Japheth, 27.04.2011, 16:02
  - int 15/4f French keyboard driver ready + *Ping Japheth* - Ninho, 27.04.2011, 17:13
    - int 15/4f French keyboard driver ready + *Ping Japheth* - Japheth, 28.04.2011, 07:47
- int 15/4f French keyboard driver ready + Now what? * - Ninho, 10.05.2011, 13:30
  - int 15/4f French keyboard driver ready + Now what? * - Rugxulo, 10.05.2011, 23:52
    - int 15/4f French keyboard driver ready + Now what? * - Ninho, 11.05.2011, 13:38
      - int 15/4f French keyboard driver ready + Now what? * - ecm, 11.05.2011, 19:39
        int 15/4f French keyboard driver ready + Now what? * - Ninho, 12.05.2011, 10:56
        int 15/4f French keyboard driver ready + Now what? * - bretjohn, 12.05.2011, 17:13
        int 15/4f French keyboard driver ready + Now what? * - Ninho, 12.05.2011, 22:27
        AMIS, Optimize memory usage - ecm, 13.05.2011, 00:24
        AMIS, Optimize memory usage - Ninho, 13.05.2011, 01:33
        AMIS, Optimize memory usage - ecm, 13.05.2011, 01:45
        AMIS, Optimize memory usage - Ninho, 13.05.2011, 02:07
        AMIS, Optimize memory usage - ecm, 13.05.2011, 02:39
        AMIS, Optimize memory usage - Ninho, 13.05.2011, 02:58
        Correction, memory usage - Ninho, 13.05.2011, 02:50
        Memory usage, AMIS(!) - ecm, 13.05.2011, 03:00
        Memory usage, AMIS(!) - Ninho, 13.05.2011, 11:57
        Memory usage, AMIS(!) - ecm, 13.05.2011, 14:51
        Memory usage, AMIS(!) - bretjohn, 13.05.2011, 17:43
        Memory usage, AMIS(!) - Ninho, 13.05.2011, 18:15
        Memory usage, AMIS(!) - Japheth, 13.05.2011, 18:58
        Memory usage, AMIS(!) - bretjohn, 14.05.2011, 01:42
        Memory usage, AMIS(!) - Ninho, 14.05.2011, 11:38
        Sorry error :) - No contents - Ignore - Ninho, 14.05.2011, 11:41
        Memory usage, AMIS(!) - bretjohn, 15.05.2011, 17:26
        Int15 handler example: IISP; chain other functions directly - ecm, 15.05.2011, 18:30
        Int15 handler example: IISP; chain other functions directly - Ninho, 16.05.2011, 03:49
        Memory usage, AMIS(!) - Ninho, 15.05.2011, 20:57
        In reply to Bret - int 15/4F stuff - Ninho, 16.05.2011, 03:35
        In reply to Bret - int 15/4F stuff - Japheth, 16.05.2011, 10:18
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - Ninho, 16.05.2011, 12:19
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - tom, 16.05.2011, 13:35
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - Ninho, 16.05.2011, 15:10
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - tom, 16.05.2011, 17:13
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - bretjohn, 16.05.2011, 19:50
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - tom, 16.05.2011, 21:06
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - bretjohn, 17.05.2011, 18:10
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - tom, 17.05.2011, 19:47
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - bretjohn, 18.05.2011, 02:09
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - Japheth, 18.05.2011, 06:47
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - bretjohn, 18.05.2011, 19:08
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - tom, 18.05.2011, 12:35
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - bretjohn, 18.05.2011, 18:14
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - tom, 19.05.2011, 15:32
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - Rugxulo, 19.05.2011, 22:42
        Keyboard, codepages... - Ninho, 19.05.2011, 23:41
        FreeDOS DISPLAY (TSR vs. device driver?) - ecm, 20.05.2011, 14:09
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - Ninho, 19.05.2011, 23:59
        In reply to : Bret 'll have to hate FreeDOS mKEYB, too - tom, 20.05.2011, 00:49
        In reply to Bret... - Ninho, 18.05.2011, 15:41
        DOS IO kernel part hooking Int15.4F ? - ecm, 18.05.2011, 20:35
        DOS IO kernel part hooking Int15.4F ? - Ninho, 18.05.2011, 22:41
        DOS kernel, Int15.4F - ecm, 18.05.2011, 22:48
        In reply to Bret... - tom, 19.05.2011, 15:15
        In reply to \\\ Tom... - Ninho, 19.05.2011, 19:27
        AMIS, Optimize memory usage - Japheth, 13.05.2011, 07:28
        AMIS, Optimize memory usage - Ninho, 13.05.2011, 11:27
        AMIS, No flaming - ecm, 13.05.2011, 00:24
        AMIS - ecm, 13.05.2011, 00:24
        AMIS - Ninho, 13.05.2011, 02:21
        AMIS, Ciriaco - ecm, 13.05.2011, 03:23
        AMIS, Ciriaco, Ralph ? - Ninho, 13.05.2011, 12:16
      - int 15/4f French keyboard driver ready + Now what? * - Rugxulo, 11.05.2011, 20:12
        int 15/4f French keyboard driver ready + Now what? * - Ninho, 12.05.2011, 10:36