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posted by Rugxulo Homepage, Usono, 05.08.2011, 23:15

> > I have NDN under Linux. Which key shortcuts do you refer to? Keyboard
> > support is implemented differently in Linux, so differences there are no
> > surprise.
>
> I'm not sure now, ALT+Fx?

Probably a clash with X11 key shortcuts. Not sure how to (re)configure that, though.

> > There is also MinGW, an implementaion of the Gnu compiler suite that
> uses
> > the Microsoft runtime instead of the Cygwin POSIX layer, and there are
> > ports of bash ansd zsh for it.

As marcov hints, I'm fairly (?) certain that even MinGW Bash / MSYS needs Cygwin (!) due to heavy POSIX reliance. Face it, GNU is all about Linu^H^H^H^H POSIX. ;-)

> I rather use mingw32 under win. It doesn't need cygwin DLL and msvcrt DLL
> is a standard part of windows.

Cygwin's DLL is unwieldy (large) and pretty much only "free" for open source stuff and sometimes slow. So people prefer MSVCRT (sadly), which is buggy (and non-free for redistribution). But yeah, everything since Win95 (w/ IE?) had (some version of) MSVCRT. Still, I prefer the OpenWatcom way, don't need either .DLLs at all!

> Also mingw gcc runs faster. But it has some
> tricky things like I crashed my mouth when printing 64bit ints by %lld and
> msvcrt needed %I64...

Also it's a "known .DLL", part of the OS these days, so you can't "overload" it with a similar (better?) version. In fact, I'm not sure how many versions of it exist, but there are many! It's a mess. I'd strongly suggest avoiding it, but I guess that's not realistic since everybody uses it (e.g. MinGW, TCC, FreeBASIC, etc). Luckily some wise people (FreePascal) also avoid it! ;-)

> > FreeDOS includes a TSR called Peruse installed at boot time that
> > provides that sort of scroll-back buffer, which can be handy because it
> > captures boot screens before DOS is loaded.
> > You can get Peruse here:
> ftp://ftp.pcmag.com/archives/1994/0412/peruse.zip
>
> Yes this tool I had probably tried before (under MSDOS 6.22) and had some
> problem with some program together with it, long time ago...

I guess you know that PC Magazine is a bit stingy these days about sharing their old DOS tools. Sad but true, just FYI. :-(

 

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