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BIG "C" compiler comparison thread (Developers)

posted by Khusraw, 05.03.2008, 15:46

> I was looking at some asm output from TC++ 1.01 today, and it's seriously
> not optimized for modern cpus. "inc sp" "inc sp" via -G instead of
> "pop ax" (I guess because 8086 was very slow for "pop", according to
> HelpPC ?).

It is a 8086-80286 compiler, so it optimizes for 80286 at best, but I find useful these old C/C++ compilers. Turbo C is the best IMO, I still use it sometimes. I wouldn't use Open Watcom or Digital Mars for writing 16-bit C code. I have no arguments, is just a question of habitude.

> But anyways, I dunno how buggy the library is, didn't mean to imply that.
> However, FreeDOS / Blair's MD5SUM tool generated incorrect hashes when
> compiled with Pacific C (vs. OpenWatcom or whatever).

I used Pacific C for compiling some small projects (just to see how it works) and I had no problems. Did you try to compile MD5SUM with it yourself? There was no warning message? Did you inform the developers?

> Use it if you like it, but others are faster, more modern, more popular
> syntax, and less buggy perhaps. There are lots of assemblers out there
> (unless you're Japheth, heh).

I know about them, and I don't use as86. But it is usable and if you need a 16-bit C compiler+80486 assembler package, Pacific C remains an option. Surely not the best, but this is another problem.

> There is no worse name, IMO.

Perhaps you know what "lucifer" means in Latin, but I'm almost sure you don't know that we inherited the word in Romanian language under the form "luceafar". The word "luceafar" never meant the devil, it was used for the planet Venus and other less important bright stars, but now is mostly used in its figurative meaning of paragon, brilliant person, genius. If it recalls you the devil before its fall, for me it simply means something bright("a luci" means "to shine" in Romanian.)

Complete thread:

• BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - DOS386, 04.03.2008, 02:07 (Developers)
  • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 04.03.2008, 05:08
    • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - DOS386, 09.03.2008, 02:11
      • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 09.03.2008, 09:40
  • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Japheth, 04.03.2008, 09:38
  • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - rr, 04.03.2008, 10:02
    • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 04.03.2008, 14:53
      • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Japheth, 04.03.2008, 18:32
        • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 04.03.2008, 18:57
          • No cheats please! - Japheth, 05.03.2008, 11:02
            • No cheats please! - Rugxulo, 05.03.2008, 14:07
    • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 04.03.2008, 20:41
      • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 05.03.2008, 01:11
        • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 05.03.2008, 02:05
          • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - rr, 05.03.2008, 09:57
        • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - rr, 05.03.2008, 10:01
    • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | evil TCC - DOS386, 09.03.2008, 02:17
      • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | evil TCC - Japheth, 09.03.2008, 08:41
      • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | evil TCC - rr, 09.03.2008, 22:20
      • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | evil TCC - Rugxulo, 10.03.2008, 03:29
    • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - marcov, 07.04.2008, 14:30
      • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 07.04.2008, 23:57
        • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - marcov, 15.04.2008, 10:43
          • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 25.07.2008, 06:55
            • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 25.07.2008, 23:15
              • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 26.07.2008, 00:27
  • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Khusraw, 04.03.2008, 21:51
    • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 05.03.2008, 01:06
      • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 05.03.2008, 01:50
      • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Khusraw, 05.03.2008, 08:01
        • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 05.03.2008, 14:04
          • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Khusraw, 05.03.2008, 15:46
            • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 06.03.2008, 04:40
              • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Japheth, 06.03.2008, 07:52
                • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - tom, 08.03.2008, 21:50
                  • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 09.03.2008, 00:53
                    • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 09.03.2008, 09:36
                    • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - tom, 10.03.2008, 12:59
                • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | WC 1.52 - DOS386, 09.03.2008, 03:02
                  • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | WC 1.52 - marcov, 07.04.2008, 14:39
                    • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | WC 1.52 - Rugxulo, 08.04.2008, 00:09
                      • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | WC 1.52 - marcov, 08.04.2008, 14:34
                        • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | WC 1.52 - Rugxulo, 08.04.2008, 16:13
                        • Free Pascal linking - rr, 09.04.2008, 11:40
                          • Free Pascal linking - marcov, 10.04.2008, 10:40
                            • Free Pascal linking - rr, 10.04.2008, 12:18
                            • Free Pascal linking - Rugxulo, 11.04.2008, 06:32
                              • Free Pascal linking - marcov, 11.04.2008, 14:20
                                • Free Pascal linking - Rugxulo, 11.04.2008, 16:16
                                  • Free Pascal linking - marcov, 11.04.2008, 20:14
                                    • compression / size wars - Rugxulo, 12.04.2008, 01:13
                                      • compression / size wars - DOS386, 01.05.2008, 04:49
                                        • compression / size wars - Rugxulo, 01.05.2008, 05:32
                                          • FAT OGG - DOS386, 01.05.2008, 05:44
                                • Free Pascal linking - Japheth, 11.04.2008, 16:39
                                • Free Pascal linking - Steve, 12.04.2008, 05:19
                                  • Free Pascal linking - marcov, 12.04.2008, 14:41
                                    • Free Pascal linking - Steve, 12.04.2008, 16:09
                                      • Free Pascal linking - marcov, 13.04.2008, 23:42
                                        • Compression - Steve, 14.04.2008, 06:27
                                          • Compression - marcov, 14.04.2008, 11:03
                                            • Compression - Steve, 14.04.2008, 13:32
                                              • Compression - Rugxulo, 14.04.2008, 20:00
                                                • Compression - Steve, 14.04.2008, 20:16
                                                  • Compression - marcov, 15.04.2008, 10:40
                                                    • Compression - Steve, 15.04.2008, 12:24
                                                      • Compression - marcov, 15.04.2008, 15:43
                                                        • Compression - Steve, 16.04.2008, 11:32
                                          • Compression - Rugxulo, 14.04.2008, 19:55
                                            • Compression - Steve, 14.04.2008, 20:44
                                            • Compression - marcov, 15.04.2008, 09:59
                                              • Compression - Steve, 15.04.2008, 11:55
                                                • Compression - marcov, 15.04.2008, 15:24
                                                  • Compression - Rugxulo, 16.04.2008, 01:13
                                                  • Compression - Steve, 16.04.2008, 10:54
                                                    • Compression - marcov, 16.04.2008, 16:24
                                                      • Compression - Steve, 16.04.2008, 21:27
                                                        • Compression - marcov, 16.04.2008, 23:38
                                                          • Compression - Steve, 17.04.2008, 12:10
              • BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Khusraw, 06.03.2008, 10:41
  • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - DOS386, 09.03.2008, 02:49
    • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Japheth, 09.03.2008, 08:56
    • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Steve, 09.03.2008, 12:40
      • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Japheth, 10.03.2008, 09:04
        • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Steve, 10.03.2008, 13:52
          • Ich nix verstehen - andere Baustelle! - Japheth, 10.03.2008, 14:43
            • Ich nix verstehen - andere Baustelle! - Steve, 11.03.2008, 10:17
            • Ich nix verstehen - andere Baustelle! - marcov, 07.04.2008, 14:44
              • Ich nix verstehen - andere Baustelle! - Steve, 08.04.2008, 01:43
                • Ich nix verstehen - andere Baustelle! - marcov, 08.04.2008, 14:36
    • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - rr, 09.03.2008, 22:10
      • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Rugxulo, 10.03.2008, 03:39
      • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - DOS386, 10.03.2008, 09:08
        • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - rr, 10.03.2008, 12:31
          • BIG "C" compiler cmp | DELTREE - DOS386, 01.05.2008, 04:32
            • BIG "C" compiler cmp | DELTREE - rr, 02.05.2008, 16:20
    • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Steve, 10.03.2008, 06:24
    • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - RayeR, 10.03.2008, 11:39
      • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - DOS386, 10.03.2008, 12:07
        • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Steve, 10.03.2008, 13:58
          • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - DOS386, 01.05.2008, 05:30
            • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Steve, 02.05.2008, 00:47
              • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - rr, 02.05.2008, 16:22
                • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Steve, 03.05.2008, 08:16
        • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - RayeR, 10.03.2008, 17:55
          • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Rugxulo, 10.03.2008, 20:49
            • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - RayeR, 10.03.2008, 21:41
            • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - marcov, 07.04.2008, 14:52
      • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Khusraw, 10.03.2008, 16:00
        • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - RayeR, 10.03.2008, 17:42
          • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Khusraw, 10.03.2008, 17:50
            • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - RayeR, 10.03.2008, 17:56
          • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - marcov, 07.04.2008, 14:55
            • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Rugxulo, 08.04.2008, 00:02
    • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Rugxulo, 11.03.2008, 19:29
      • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Steve, 12.03.2008, 08:01
        • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Rugxulo, 12.03.2008, 20:13
          • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Steve, 13.03.2008, 04:10
        • BIG "C" compiler cmp | INTEL - DOS386, 01.05.2008, 04:43
          • BIG "C" compiler cmp | INTEL - Steve, 02.05.2008, 00:51
      • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - marcov, 07.04.2008, 14:58
        • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Rugxulo, 07.04.2008, 23:38
          • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - marcov, 10.04.2008, 10:22
            • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Rugxulo, 11.04.2008, 06:27
              • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - marcov, 11.04.2008, 20:18
      • BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - DOS386, 01.05.2008, 04:41
    • BIG "C" compiler cmp | new facts ore out: OW TCC CC386 - DOS386, 01.05.2008, 04:30
      • BIG "C" compiler cmp | new facts ore out: OW TCC CC386 - Rugxulo, 01.05.2008, 05:27