DOS ain't dead - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread

BIG "C" compiler comparison thread (Developers)

posted by Rugxulo , Usono, 09.03.2008, 00:53

> In about 2002, we compared the codesize for the FreeDOS kernel
> produced by TC 2.01, TC++, Watcom, MS VC 1.52, Digital Mars

TC 2.01, TC++, and MS VC 1.52 haven't changed a lick since then (five or six years). But Digital Mars, Watcom (now OpenWatcom) are still developed (although I dunno if they really worked on the C++ much, still not nearly as compliant as G++, but 1.8 beta does have someone heavily tweaking it, supposedly). I actually heard someone claim that Digital Mars (or Zortech, whatever) was the first native C++ (PC?) compiler (i.e., not a front-end?). So, it should be good at C++, but I dunno how compatible it is in 16-bit DOS land (meh).

> If only size matters, Watcom is the best compiler around for DOS Kernel
> type of project.

Here's what Eric's latest kernel ("fat security") compile is:

Watcom sizes: 386/16 41280 /32 45857 86/16 43517 /32 46174
TurboC sizes: 186/16 42720 /32 45132 86/16 42861 /32 45267

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BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - DOS386, 04.03.2008, 02:07 (Developers)
- BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 04.03.2008, 05:08
  - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - DOS386, 09.03.2008, 02:11
    - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 09.03.2008, 09:40
- BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Japheth, 04.03.2008, 09:38
- BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - rr, 04.03.2008, 10:02
  - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 04.03.2008, 14:53
    - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Japheth, 04.03.2008, 18:32
      - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 04.03.2008, 18:57
        No cheats please! - Japheth, 05.03.2008, 11:02
        No cheats please! - Rugxulo, 05.03.2008, 14:07
  - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 04.03.2008, 20:41
    - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 05.03.2008, 01:11
      - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 05.03.2008, 02:05
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - rr, 05.03.2008, 09:57
      - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - rr, 05.03.2008, 10:01
  - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | evil TCC - DOS386, 09.03.2008, 02:17
    - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | evil TCC - Japheth, 09.03.2008, 08:41
    - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | evil TCC - rr, 09.03.2008, 22:20
    - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | evil TCC - Rugxulo, 10.03.2008, 03:29
  - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - marcov, 07.04.2008, 14:30
    - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 07.04.2008, 23:57
      - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - marcov, 15.04.2008, 10:43
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 25.07.2008, 06:55
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 25.07.2008, 23:15
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 26.07.2008, 00:27
- BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Khusraw, 04.03.2008, 21:51
  - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 05.03.2008, 01:06
    - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 05.03.2008, 01:50
    - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Khusraw, 05.03.2008, 08:01
      - BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 05.03.2008, 14:04
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Khusraw, 05.03.2008, 15:46
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 06.03.2008, 04:40
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Japheth, 06.03.2008, 07:52
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - tom, 08.03.2008, 21:50
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Rugxulo, 09.03.2008, 00:53
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Steve, 09.03.2008, 09:36
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - tom, 10.03.2008, 12:59
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | WC 1.52 - DOS386, 09.03.2008, 03:02
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | WC 1.52 - marcov, 07.04.2008, 14:39
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | WC 1.52 - Rugxulo, 08.04.2008, 00:09
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | WC 1.52 - marcov, 08.04.2008, 14:34
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread | WC 1.52 - Rugxulo, 08.04.2008, 16:13
        Free Pascal linking - rr, 09.04.2008, 11:40
        Free Pascal linking - marcov, 10.04.2008, 10:40
        Free Pascal linking - rr, 10.04.2008, 12:18
        Free Pascal linking - Rugxulo, 11.04.2008, 06:32
        Free Pascal linking - marcov, 11.04.2008, 14:20
        Free Pascal linking - Rugxulo, 11.04.2008, 16:16
        Free Pascal linking - marcov, 11.04.2008, 20:14
        compression / size wars - Rugxulo, 12.04.2008, 01:13
        compression / size wars - DOS386, 01.05.2008, 04:49
        compression / size wars - Rugxulo, 01.05.2008, 05:32
        FAT OGG - DOS386, 01.05.2008, 05:44
        Free Pascal linking - Japheth, 11.04.2008, 16:39
        Free Pascal linking - Steve, 12.04.2008, 05:19
        Free Pascal linking - marcov, 12.04.2008, 14:41
        Free Pascal linking - Steve, 12.04.2008, 16:09
        Free Pascal linking - marcov, 13.04.2008, 23:42
        Compression - Steve, 14.04.2008, 06:27
        Compression - marcov, 14.04.2008, 11:03
        Compression - Steve, 14.04.2008, 13:32
        Compression - Rugxulo, 14.04.2008, 20:00
        Compression - Steve, 14.04.2008, 20:16
        Compression - marcov, 15.04.2008, 10:40
        Compression - Steve, 15.04.2008, 12:24
        Compression - marcov, 15.04.2008, 15:43
        Compression - Steve, 16.04.2008, 11:32
        Compression - Rugxulo, 14.04.2008, 19:55
        Compression - Steve, 14.04.2008, 20:44
        Compression - marcov, 15.04.2008, 09:59
        Compression - Steve, 15.04.2008, 11:55
        Compression - marcov, 15.04.2008, 15:24
        Compression - Rugxulo, 16.04.2008, 01:13
        Compression - Steve, 16.04.2008, 10:54
        Compression - marcov, 16.04.2008, 16:24
        Compression - Steve, 16.04.2008, 21:27
        Compression - marcov, 16.04.2008, 23:38
        Compression - Steve, 17.04.2008, 12:10
        BIG "C" compiler comparison thread - Khusraw, 06.03.2008, 10:41
- BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - DOS386, 09.03.2008, 02:49
  - BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Japheth, 09.03.2008, 08:56
  - BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Steve, 09.03.2008, 12:40
    - BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Japheth, 10.03.2008, 09:04
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        Ich nix verstehen - andere Baustelle! - marcov, 07.04.2008, 14:44
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    - BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Rugxulo, 10.03.2008, 03:39
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      - BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Steve, 10.03.2008, 13:58
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      - BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - RayeR, 10.03.2008, 17:42
        BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Khusraw, 10.03.2008, 17:50
        BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - RayeR, 10.03.2008, 17:56
        BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - marcov, 07.04.2008, 14:55
        BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Rugxulo, 08.04.2008, 00:02
  - BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Rugxulo, 11.03.2008, 19:29
    - BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Steve, 12.03.2008, 08:01
      - BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Rugxulo, 12.03.2008, 20:13
        BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - Steve, 13.03.2008, 04:10
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        BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - marcov, 10.04.2008, 10:22
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        BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW - marcov, 11.04.2008, 20:18
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