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BIG "C" compiler cmp | the "scientific" facts ore out DW (Developers)

posted by Rugxulo Homepage, Usono, 10.03.2008, 03:39

> > - The excessive dominance / exclusivity of D prevents people from taking
> > notice of other compilers
>
> Duh?! It's "evil", because it's successful?
It's successful because it's GCC, it's free, it's open source, and it's stable, as well as having many support libraries (e.g. Allegro). Oh, and PM stability plus being able to access most of your RAM doesn't hurt either.

> > - Supports C++
>
> Why is this a minus? If you don't like C++, don't use it.
Agreed. I mean, GCC 4.2.3 supports C, C++, Fortran, Ada, Obj C, and Obj C++. That's quite a lot. (More if you count assembly via GAS.) Nothing wrong with that, even if I don't personally use it all.

> > - Itself bloated and messy, not easy to download, install and use
>
> Sorry, but the DJGPP Zip File Picker is easy to use and you just
> have to unzip files to get DJGPP installed.
DJDEV204.ZIP, BNU217B.ZIP, GCC423B.ZIP is the bare bare minimum. "md DJGPP" and "unzip *.zip -d \DJGPP" plus "set DJGPP=C:\DJGPP\djgpp.env" and you're set.

> > - No 16-bit RM support
>
> There's (outdated) experimental 8086 support at
> http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/16bit/.
Somebody recently submitted real 8086 patches for use in embedded work. But, 16-bit anything is frowned upon (esp. by Linux 31337).

> > - It's OBSOLETE
> > :crying:
>
> Many people call DOS obsolete, but you still use it. So why do you care
> about? :confused:
Not trendy anymore perhaps, but it still works. Just because it isn't popular doesn't mean it sucks. It's quite robust. But people follow top dogs, not the little guys. (BTW, it's completely false that it's unstable on XP or any Windows anymore. That was a long, long time ago. And that was partially due to NTVDM bugs. Nobody switched to MinGW or Cygwin because of that. Heck, those have much older GCCs than DJGPP! People may have done it for other reasons [DirectX?].)

> > - No project goal, 2.04 beta has been pending for 5 years, nobody knows
> > when 2.04 final will get out, if ever, and what it should offer then
> :-(
>
> OK, but djdev204 works fine. DJGPP just lacks man power to lever a 2.04
> final.
Yeah, well, DJ just is really slow at updating, that's all. He's overwhelmed, probably. Besides, he has a family to support, etc.

> > + Supports C++
>
> Why is this a plus for OW, but a minus on DJGPP?
16-bit support, perhaps?? (Dunno.) They really aren't as good as G++. But it's good enough for some reasonable use, at least. I don't understand the idea that you have to code everything in only the latest, greatest standard. "Whatever works" should usually be good enough.

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